Trumps Presidency 2025

[mtutiger]

12 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

The military is operating spy planes and drones in the area, they know what they were shooting at. 

The ultimate call for shooting at that boat falls to the Commander in Chief, Donald J. Trump. A person who is perhaps the most profligate liar in American life today.

Again, forgive me for not taking anything coming from this administration at face value. Given how often they lie, nobody owes them their trust.

Edited 5 hours ago by mtutiger

[CMRivdogs]

6 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

You think selling a bag of weed is the same as loading a go-fast boat with bundles of illegal drugs and making a run for the USA?

The military is operating spy planes and drones in the area, they know what they were shooting at. 

I will type this very slowly so maybe you will understand. What was done was done illegally under International Law. The drug lords, if that was actually on the boat, are not at war with the US. The most expedient thing to do was to keep track of the vessel, and when it came into US waters have the Coast Guard board it, seize the contents and arrest everyone on the ship.

In essence we stopped one shipload of drugs, killed a bunch of people.Big Deal. It's why we're losing the War on Drugs because of shortsightedness by people like you. But the bottom line is that was only one shipment. Go after the head of the snake, not the tail. This action only made the Drug Lords more determined. 

[GalagaGuy]

Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Your premise is shoot first ask questions later. I think that is a very dangerous precedence to et, whether it is over a trunk full of weed or a boat full of drugs. Furthermore, the military didn't know that Iran Air Flight 655 was a passenger jet. They followed your mantra of shoot first and ask questions later and 290 innocent people died.

No, they made a mistake with a blip on a radar screen during a war.  In this case, they had high resolution cameras on a spy plane or drone tracking this boat from the time the drugs were loaded.  Trying to compare the two is absolutely ridiculous. 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, GalagaGuy said:

I'm smart enough to understand that most Americans care more about what's happening inside America and that's why many of them decided it was best to vote for the convicted felon.  Maybe one day you'll figure that out.   

So, now you are saying that Trump is good for America but you claim that you didn't vote for him?  That doesn't compute.   

[GalagaGuy]

1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

So, now you are saying that Trump is good for America but you claim that you didn't vote for him?  That doesn't compute.   

I see we've once again reached the point where people just start making stuff up that isn't anywhere close to being the truth.  Not once have I said the orange moron was good for anything so stop twisting reality simply so you can try to keep arguing. 

[mtutiger]

The thing I keep going back to is that the latest reporting is that they have still not briefed with Congressional leaders and, as of last night, still were scrambling to come up with a legal rationale for what they did.

I don't know if they were carrying drugs or not, but as of right now, they have provided no answers to the our representatives (ie. Congress) as to why they did this or what authority they were acting under while pursuing this. As someone concerned about government overreach or a runaway executive branch that is unaccountable to the people, forgive me for not seal-clapping this stupidity

[mtutiger]

2 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Not once have I said the orange moron was good for anything so stop twisting reality simply so you can try to keep arguing. 

To be clear, you are asking us to uncritically accept the actions of an administration led by someone you regard as "the orange moron", correct?

Edited 4 hours ago by mtutiger

[Tiger337]

37 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Sealed the southern border as well. I was told that would be impossible without immigration reform bills.....

No, simultaneously letting immigrants who want to work and contribute into our country, while keeping out the criminals can't happen without immigration reform.  

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I see we've once again reached the point where people just start making stuff up that isn't anywhere close to being the truth.  Not once have I said the orange moron was good for anything so stop twisting reality simply so you can try to keep arguing. 

You call the commander in chief a moron, but you want us to accept everything that happens militarily under his watch without question?  

[mtutiger]

17 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

You call the commander in chief a moron, but you want us to accept everything that happens militarily under his watch without question?  

Look, I think that there's a belief out there that the Civil-Military relations are still what they were pre-Trump 2.0, which may explain some of the contradiction here.... but we have seen Trump at numerous times use the military in ways that have politicized their work. Whether it's his speech in NC earlier this year with marines in the background hooting and hollering like it was a campaign rally, or his use of the National Guard in CA, DC and (potentially) in IL, just a couple of examples of him helping to instigate the breakdown in trust between civil society and the military.

So while I would love to believe nothing more than this is a Commander in Chief that is acting upon reasonable direction from the military, by virtue of his actions since resuming office, I just can't do it. The trust is gone.

Edited 4 hours ago by mtutiger

[oblong]

9 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Look, I think that there's a belief out there that the Civil-Military relations are still what they were pre-Trump 2.0, which may explain some of the contradiction here.... but we have seen Trump at numerous times use the military in ways that have politicized their work. Whether it's his speech in NC earlier this year with marines in the background hooting and hollering like it was a campaign rally, or his use of the National Guard in CA, DC and (potentially) in IL, just a couple of examples of him helping to instigate the breakdown in trust between civil society and the military.

So while I would love to believe nothing more than this is a Commander in Chief that is acting upon reasonable direction from the military, by virtue of his actions since resuming office, I just can't do it. The trust is gone.

right.  If Jim Mattis were DoD then I'd assume they acted on solid intelligence.  But we have a drunk TV boy in charge of the military now so who the **** knows what went on.  

[Tigeraholic1]

TDA was designated as foreign terroists. Not the same as Jimmy selling dime bags out his garage.

https://www.state.gov/designation-of-international-cartels

Edited 4 hours ago by Tigeraholic1

[Motown Bombers]

Have you ever considered Galaga may have been on the Signal chat that authorized the strike?

[mtutiger]

lol

[GalagaGuy]

52 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

You call the commander in chief a moron, but you want us to accept everything that happens militarily under his watch without question?  

I want you to stop crying over some dead drug smugglers.  

[Tigerbomb13]

2 hours ago, GalagaGuy said:

I'm smart enough to understand that most Americans care more about what's happening inside America and that's why many of them decided it was best to vote for the convicted felon.  Maybe one day you'll figure that out.   

You’re right about one thing. Shooting and killing a bunch of people that were fishing, and America not caring about it because they are foreigners is exactly the lack of empathy and emptiness that got Trump elected. 

[mtutiger]

7 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I want you to stop crying over some dead drug smugglers.  

Beautiful non-answer here.... hang it in the Louvre

[Tiger337]

10 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I want you to stop crying over some dead drug smugglers.  

I want you to stop crying over questioning of your commander in chief.  

[GalagaGuy]

1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

I want you to stop crying over questioning of your commander in chief.  

I have no commander in chief, I am no longer on active duty and well beyond my IRR time.  You don't seem to understand how any of this works which makes sense because you're just here to pick a fight. 

[smr-nj]

Oh my goodness…. 
 

Your answers are nasty as all hell, and then you accuse others of picking a fight.

I don’t think you can have it both ways. *shrugs*

[gehringer_2]

27 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I want you to stop crying over some dead drug smugglers.  

As a wise old mage once said: "“Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement."

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Tigermojo]

Most cocaine comes from Columbia. Why isn't Trump blowing up Columbians? Trump has a personal agenda against Venezuela which is not in the best interest of Americans. This has nothing to do with drugs or gangs from Venezuela.

Trump's get rich scheme is destroy the USA and anyone else to make himself money.

Edited 3 hours ago by Tigermojo

[Dan Gilmore]

3 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

Most cocaine comes from Columbia. Why isn't Trump blowing up Columbians? Trump has a personal agenda against Venezuela which is not in the best interest of Americans. This has nothing to do with drugs or gangs from Venezuela.

And it’s distraction from the Epstein morass.

[Tigermojo]

1 minute ago, Dan Gilmore said:

And it’s distraction from the Epstein morass.

That too but even before that, he just wants more than Putin has $$$.