Tiger Cubs (notes on the minors)

[LongLiveMaroth]

Speaking of McGoningle. 

 

https://x.com/tigersMLreport/status/1938757495138459925?t=coOcr-u-TUokl1pubZGi1Q&s=19

 

 

[Tigermojo]

WM has scored 17 runs in the first four innings. Opposing pitchers have thrown 131 pitches.

[Edman85]

Wherein I point out that taking somebody other than Max Clark in 2023 may have jeopardized McGonigle.

[Graterol]

If that draft is re-done today, where does Mcgonigle go. 3rd maybe?

[Edman85]

57 minutes ago, Graterol said:

If that draft is re-done today, where does Mcgonigle go. 3rd maybe?

The premise of these "redraft" hypotheticals assumes players are drafted in order of how good they are and not based on who signals they are willing to sign a deal with the team and where they fit in the bonus pool, and I don't know how how to spread that word.

Edited Sunday at 01:19 PM by Edman85

[Tiger337]

4 hours ago, Edman85 said:

The premise of these "redraft" hypotheticals assumes players are drafted in order of how good they are and not based on who signals they are willing to sign a deal with the team and where they fit in the bonus pool, and I don't know how how to spread that word.

How about "if the draft was redone today based on how good they are"?

[RandyMarsh]

17 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Wherein I point out that taking somebody other than Max Clark in 2023 may have jeopardized McGonigle.

I know this is the narrative and not necessarily saying it isn't true but I do question it cause Langford signed for under slot at Texas and for the same amount as Clark. No reason to think he wouldn't have signed under slot for us too which would still allow the funds to go after McGonigle. Obviously not guaranteed but I think it was highly likely we still would've gotten him even if we drafted Langford. 

[Edman85]

31 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I know this is the narrative and not necessarily saying it isn't true but I do question it cause Langford signed for under slot at Texas and for the same amount as Clark. No reason to think he wouldn't have signed under slot for us too which would still allow the funds to go after McGonigle. Obviously not guaranteed but I think it was highly likely we still would've gotten him even if we drafted Langford. 

How do you know Langford would have signed for that with the Tigers?

[RandyMarsh]

2 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

How do you know Langford would have signed for that with the Tigers?

Obviously we don't know but we also don't know that he wouldn't have either. People just assume he would've cost slot or higher but there is no evidence of that. 

[gehringer_2]

Not sure Langford isn’t  a part time player on this team. 

Edited Sunday at 08:05 PM by gehringer_2

[RandyMarsh]

6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Not sure Langford isn’t  a part time player on this team. 

As it stands right now he probably would be but not out of the question we win the World Series or at the very least advance a round further last year if we had him on the team. We desperately could've used his bat against Cleveland and he was torching the baseball to end last year. 

We'll see how things work out, I still wish we would've drafted him but there is a legit chance Clark turns out better and if it indeed meant that we miss out on McGonigle by drafting Langford then Harris made the right move for sure.

[SoCalTiger]

Maybe Platoonford took under slot $( if he really did) because Texas does not have state income tax.

[Tenacious D]

49 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

As it stands right now he probably would be but not out of the question we win the World Series or at the very least advance a round further last year if we had him on the team. We desperately could've used his bat against Cleveland and he was torching the baseball to end last year. 

We'll see how things work out, I still wish we would've drafted him but there is a legit chance Clark turns out better and if it indeed meant that we miss out on McGonigle by drafting Langford then Harris made the right move for sure.

I’ll take Clark every day, even without the McGonigle signing.  Max is everything this team needs—legit high OBP guy with speed and will provide the perfect defense for Comerica.  His arm will let him play RF, if they elect to keep Parker in CF.  Will basically be 3 centerfielders, with Greene.

He’ll be worth the wait.

[TigerNation]

Melton with 33Ks and 6 BB in 20.2 IP in AAA. One to keep an eye for an end of season bullpen tryout.

[LongLiveMaroth]

2 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

As it stands right now he probably would be but not out of the question we win the World Series or at the very least advance a round further last year if we had him on the team. We desperately could've used his bat against Cleveland and he was torching the baseball to end last year. 

We'll see how things work out, I still wish we would've drafted him but there is a legit chance Clark turns out better and if it indeed meant that we miss out on McGonigle by drafting Langford then Harris made the right move for sure.

I mean you're also making the assumption that he would have been called up which with this regime is not a given. 

[tiger2022]

Maybe just want to wait until these guys play a game above A-ball before we put them in the MLB all time great category.

[Arlington]

2 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

I’ll take Clark every day, even without the McGonigle signing.  Max is everything this team needs—legit high OBP guy with speed and will provide the perfect defense for Comerica.  His arm will let him play RF, if they elect to keep Parker in CF.  Will basically be 3 centerfielders, with Greene.

He’ll be worth the wait.

Wonder if any team has swept the outfield gold gloves

[LongLiveMaroth]

Toledo W 5-3
Lee 1/4 2K HR
Sweeney 1/3 BB K SB
Malloy 1/2 BB 
Ibanez 2/4 2RBI K 2 2B
Melton 4.2IP 3H 1ER 1BB 7K
Go 1IP H 2K

 

 

Erie W 9-1
Cruz 2/6 RBI K 
Liranzo 3/5 RBI K 
Bigbie 3/4 4RBI BB 2 2B
Campos 1/4 RBI
Petit 2IP H K

 

WM W 10-8
McGonigle 4/6 2RBI 2B
Clark 2/4 RBI 2BB 2K
Briceno 2/4 RBI BB
Graham 0/5 RBI K SB

Lakeland W 4-0
Franyerber 1/4 RBI K
Strong 2/4 RBI 2K HR
Rucker 1/3
Reyes 6IP 2H BB 5K
Sloan 1IP 1BB 2K

 

[LongLiveMaroth]

Honestly, I love this. What a fun dig into local history to come up with a temp rebranding.

[gehringer_2]

McGonigle and Clark reached base 8 times. Both with OBP's above 400 and more BB than Ks. 

[monkeytargets39]

The obvious rebrand was the Erie Indianas with Omri Katz as the mascot 

[oblong]

As a Dallas fan I love the Omri Katz reference.  Obviously it's from the movie he did but still.... he'll always be John Ross Ewing III.

[Tenacious D]

31 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

McGonigle and Clark reached base 8 times. Both with OBP's above 400 and more BB than Ks. 

F Wyatt Langford.  

These two will be the worth the wait 

[holygoat]

Looks like they're gonna wait until after the trade deadline to move McGonigle to Erie, but he's clearly ready right now.

[LongLiveMaroth]

There is honestly quite a logjam in the upper minors. Obviously, you make room for McGonigle etc but looking at the Toledo roster in the infield you have Workman, Lee, Ibanez, Sweeney, Kriedler, Malloy, Jung. Some of those guys can play OF so that gives you a little wiggle room, but even so if you wanted to push someone like Max Anderson up or Trei Cruz there just isn't a lot of ABs to go around up there but I think you have to push Anderson up there soon and basically split time between Anderson, Jung, and, Lee between 2nd, 3rd and DH.