Tiger Cubs (notes on the minors)

[Nate7474]

10 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

There is honestly quite a logjam in the upper minors. Obviously, you make room for McGonigle etc but looking at the Toledo roster in the infield you have Workman, Lee, Ibanez, Sweeney, Kriedler, Malloy, Jung. Some of those guys can play OF so that gives you a little wiggle room, but even so if you wanted to push someone like Max Anderson up or Trei Cruz there just isn't a lot of ABs to go around up there but I think you have to push Anderson up there soon and basically split time between Anderson, Jung, and, Lee between 2nd, 3rd and DH. 

I’ve looked at this a few times and the only solution is to cut some of the other older prospects getting passed by.

I would anticipate the front office trying to find trade partners for some of the players for Bullpen and a 3/4/5 type SP at the deadline. After then maybe try a turn them into low minors high upside long shots and then make some cuts. 

[monkeytargets39]

26 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

There is honestly quite a logjam in the upper minors. Obviously, you make room for McGonigle etc but looking at the Toledo roster in the infield you have Workman, Lee, Ibanez, Sweeney, Kriedler, Malloy, Jung. Some of those guys can play OF so that gives you a little wiggle room, but even so if you wanted to push someone like Max Anderson up or Trei Cruz there just isn't a lot of ABs to go around up there but I think you have to push Anderson up there soon and basically split time between Anderson, Jung, and, Lee between 2nd, 3rd and DH. 

I’m not gonna lose sleep over Workman, Ibanez or Kriedler losing ABs in Toledo.  

[LongLiveMaroth]

 

 

[Tigeraholic1]

Interesting history here.

 

[monkeytargets39]

No Franyerber?!?

[sagnam]

21 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Interesting history here.

 

This made me search Dingler to look at his minor league stats and this was the results. I was confused.

 

Edited yesterday at 05:20 PM by sagnam

[Tenacious D]

3 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I’m not gonna lose sleep over Workman, Ibanez or Kriedler losing ABs in Toledo.  

You can also trade and demote a few guys—send Kreidler and Workman to Erie.

[LongLiveMaroth]

1 hour ago, Tenacious D said:

You can also trade and demote a few guys—send Kreidler and Workman to Erie.

The issue there is you are also probably pushing up Clark, McGongle, and probably Pacheco so demotion doesn't really solve all that much. 

[holygoat]

I'm confident that a couple of those guys  will be gone by the deadline, if not more than a couple. 

[Edman85]

There will have to be a lot of cuts after the draft due to the players assigned to rosters counting against the Domestic Reserve List. 

I mean Jim Jarvis is getting run at shortstop in Erie. A simple swap there with McGonigle seems a lot better than cutting potential MLB depth.

[microline133]

In all the years I've talked to front office folks about players/prospects, I've never seen them have the concerns over log jams, roster crunches, players being blocked, promotions, etc. These are concerns of fans and I've yet to see front office type stress over any of it....they are manufactured "problems" for the most part.

Priority prospects get handled first....this goes with season-opening roster construction and in-season player movement. If a priority prospect needs a specific assignment, they get it....end of story. When the team decides to promote -- for the purposes of this, let's say McGonigle -- then they promote him, and the underlying decisions are quite black and white or obvious. 

[RandyMarsh]

25 minutes ago, microline133 said:

In all the years I've talked to front office folks about players/prospects, I've never seen them have the concerns over log jams, roster crunches, players being blocked, promotions, etc. These are concerns of fans and I've yet to see front office type stress over any of it....they are manufactured "problems" for the most part.

Priority prospects get handled first....this goes with season-opening roster construction and in-season player movement. If a priority prospect needs a specific assignment, they get it....end of story. When the team decides to promote -- for the purposes of this, let's say McGonigle -- then they promote him, and the underlying decisions are quite black and white or obvious. 

Something else I always wondered was does the affiliate's concerns factor into any decision or is it always just about what's best for the prospect and in turn the big league club? For instance I read some tweets from people a few weeks back saying that the Tigers may wait till WM clinched before calling Clark and/or McGonigle up to Erie. Would something like that ever really be considered? 

Edited 21 hours ago by RandyMarsh

[microline133]

Occasionally they will consider something like that, as long as it doesn't significantly impact the timeline or progression they are aiming for.

[Shinzaki]

Does having a chance to gain experience in a minor league post season play a part in those decisions?

[Edman85]

37 minutes ago, microline133 said:

Occasionally they will consider something like that, as long as it doesn't significantly impact the timeline or progression they are aiming for.

Probably less now that there aren't semiannual affiliate reshuffles. With Toledo, Erie, and West Michigan more or less locked in, they have less leverage to force the Tigers' hands.

[microline133]

1 hour ago, Shinzaki said:

Does having a chance to gain experience in a minor league post season play a part in those decisions?

Not really.

[Edman85]

I should explain a bit more about the Domestic Reserve List. It is the limit of minor leaguers you can have rostered: 165 in the regular season. This started up a few years ago and was actually reduced from 180 to 165 last year, so last year is when things started getting pretty tight. I've got the tigers around 162 right now (but haven't given it a scrub in a while). Players in the majors don't count; players in the minors on the 40 man do count. Players on the minor league 60-Day IL and full season IL do not count, nor do suspended or restricted list players. You can only have 15 players on the minor league 60-Day IL at one time, and the Full Season IL is only for certain surgeries and prohibits a player from certain activities if they are placed on it.

Last year, a bulk of the cuts around the draft were low level players or mid level third catchers. There's lots of players many on here haven't heard of who are just taking up spots on rosters who would be released well before the Kreidlers and Workmans of the world are.

Also, injuries have a way of making roster crunches work out. There's ways to juggle playing time beyond that.

[monkeytargets39]

The way I see it- if you want ABs, perform when it’s your chance.  These problems tend to solve themselves.  It’s nice that we actually have enough depth throughout all levels of the minors for a change to actually have to make decisions.  
 

Gone are the days of giving Jacoby Jones 1000 mlb ABs to see if he figures it out.  Welcome to baseball thunderdome.

[IdahoBert]

Erie Moon Mammoths: Detroit's Double-A team gets rebrand from John Oliver

[1776]

https://www.mlb.com/news/john-oliver-introduces-moon-mammoth-mascot-for-erie-seawolves
 

 

[Edman85]

The video is kinda funny if that is out yet. He showed clips of some of the players talking about him and then roasts them in return.

[LongLiveMaroth]

FCL W 7-6
Warwick 1/4 RBI SB
Osorio 2/4 RBI BB K SB
Jimenez 0/3 2BB K SB
Dickson 0/3 BB
 

Cris Rodriguez Watch
2/4 K

[Shinzaki]

Osorio is having a really good season...other than a high K rate.

Headed to low A Lakeland this summer?

[romad1]

Erie Moon Mammoth purple is pretty strong.  Its not usual.  

[RandyMarsh]

It means very little at all to me what the minor league teams do with their branding or jerseys but I will say that I don't care for the logo and font on the front of the jerseys.

It just looks really cheap to me and something you'd see at a knockoff Halloween store or something. 

Edited 5 hours ago by RandyMarsh