Tiger Cubs (notes on the minors)

[Cruzer1]

Shoulder separation? Just pop it back in. Fun with shoulders.

[Cruzer1]

'It doesn't look good': Tigers' shortstop prospect Rainer suffers shoulder injury

It does sound bad. I was being flip because of my own personal shoulder woes. He's the best shortstop prospect I've seen from the Tigers since Travis Fryman.

[LongLiveMaroth]

8 hours ago, lordstanley said:

 

That's literally the same thing that happened to Colt Keith when he was in WM. His throwing strength was never the same. 😬

[Edman85]

10 hours ago, Tigermojo said:

Clark, McGonigal and Briceno are absolutely murdering baseballs right now. Parents in the crowd are covering their children's eyes.

Clark is?

[Tigermojo]

58 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Clark is?

I guess he's more of an OBP guy.

[Motor City Sonics]

I think there are probably several AAA teams that would fare better than the Colorado Rockies

[RatkoVarda]

8 hours ago, Cruzer1 said:

'It doesn't look good': Tigers' shortstop prospect Rainer suffers shoulder injury

It does sound bad. I was being flip because of my own personal shoulder woes. He's the best shortstop prospect I've seen from the Tigers since Travis Fryman.

getting injured diving back to the base is what turned Colt Keith from a third baseman who pitched in HS with a 60 grade arm

into a second baseman who now plays first base. 😞

[LongLiveMaroth]

Toledo 6-1
Workman 1/4 K 2B
Lee 0/4 2K
Jung 0/3 BB 2K
 

Erie W 8-3
Anderson 1/5 RBI 2k HR
Liranzo 2/4 2RBI BB 2K 2B HR
Campos 2/4 

 

WM W 9-2
Clark 2/4 RBI 2BB 2B
McGonigle 2/5 3RBI K HR CS
Briceno 4/4 3RBI BB 2B HR 
Pacheco 0/2 RBI 3BB K
Ashman 1IP BB K

 

 

 

Lakeland W 4-3
Rainer 0/2
Montilla 1/3 RBI BB K 2B
Strong 1/4 RBI 2K 2B

 

Not really a highlight but...

FCL L 4-0
Warwick 1/3
Dickson 0/3 2K
Osorio 1/3 K
Jimenez 0/2 K

[Cruzer1]

38 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

getting injured diving back to the base is what turned Colt Keith from a third baseman who pitched in HS with a 60 grade arm

into a second baseman who now plays first base. 😞

Keith still has a good arm, he's just not accurate. Rainer has a hose.

[Edman85]

Keith is one guy. He's also somebody who bulked up a lot and lost a lot of the agility required to make good throws on the infield. There's no guarantees Rainer would follow a similar path.

[Shinzaki]

I jammed my right shoulder once playing pick up football.  Couldn't raise my arm for a week.  Went from being a slo-pitch CF with a gun to a noodle arm 1st baseman.  One of the great athletic tragedies of the 1980's.

I hope Rainer has better luck

[Cruzer1]

I always thought I had a good arm, I played some outfield in rec softball, and could make some throws, but now I'm looking at perhaps not making another throw. Eventually I might throw with my right, but I'm left handed and I'm having a reverse shoulder replacement, and will be able to throw overhand. I will be able to golf in a couple of years, though.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

Keith is one guy. He's also somebody who bulked up a lot and lost a lot of the agility required to make good throws on the infield. 

For what good it's done him, he's still only at 1HR/40AB and his EV this season is exactly the same as last season.

[Cruzer1]

3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

For what good it's done him, he's still only at 1HR/40AB and his EV this season is exactly the same as last season.

I think he's really close to breaking out.

[gehringer_2]

12 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said:

I think he's really close to breaking out.

we can hope. Early last year his numbers weren't good either but my recollection is that he was really getting BaBIP'd. Don't know if that is as true this season - maybe he just likes hot weather.

[RandyMarsh]

3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

For what good it's done him, he's still only at 1HR/40AB and his EV this season is exactly the same as last season.

FWIW yeah he bulked up some but we don't know if it was intentional or not. Looking at pics of him in High School and he had wide shoulders/chest and a thick neck along with already being listed at 6'2 195. That size and build as an 18yr tells me that chances are he's going to be a pretty big dude by his early to mid 20s like he is. 

[Cruzer1]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

we can hope. Early last year his numbers weren't good either but my recollection is that he was really getting BaBIP'd. Don't know if that is as true this season - maybe he just likes hot weather.

His HR's (especially the Houston one) are beautiful, and with a perfect swing. The rest is just meh, and I'm wondering if he's pressing too much. When he's good, he's very good.

[gehringer_2]

9 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said:

His HR's (especially the Houston one) are beautiful, and with a perfect swing. The rest is just meh, and I'm wondering if he's pressing too much. When he's good, he's very good.

I wonder if for some of these young guys there Is there such a thing as too much bat speed  - maybe a tendency because of the metrics availability to chase that instead of contact? Sweeney is another one with a really quick bat, but he's not making enough contact either.

Edited Wednesday at 09:00 PM by gehringer_2

[Cruzer1]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

I wonder if for some of these young guys there Is there such a thing as too much bat speed  - maybe a tendency because of the metrics availability to chase that instead of contact? Sweeney is another one with a really quick bat, but he's not making enough contact either.

I think part of it is the pitching is so good right now. It's tougher than ever to hit a baseball.

[gehringer_2]

9 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said:

I think part of it is the pitching is so good right now. It's tougher than ever to hit a baseball.

True, I believe the BA for a 100 OPS+ is dropping. Keith has gotten himself to a 105 OPS+, though it's it doesn't seem like it watching him - probably because his walk rate is pretty decent and walks tend to be pretty 'meh'

Edited Wednesday at 09:11 PM by gehringer_2

[papalawrence]

Any news on Bryce Ranier's injury status yet?

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, papalawrence said:

Any news on Bryce Ranier's injury status yet?

[papalawrence]

8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Lol, let's hope

[Tigeraholic1]

Minor league injury bug spreading.

 

[SoCalTiger]

My goodness.