Tiger Cubs (notes on the minors)

[Arlington]

On 8/24/2025 at 9:38 PM, Cruzer1 said:

Teams usually like ther prospects to have at least 1,500 plate appearances before moving up to the majors.  McGonigle has about 750 right now. A full year in AAA will probably put him around 1,200.

You really should look at the most similar comparable.  How many minor PAs did Rogers Hornsby have?

[gehringer_2]

For the season McGonigle has as many PA at AA as at A by now, and his BA/OPS is down 130/220 pts on the transition to AA. He's finding some challenges to overcome that he wasn't at A ball. Hype train can maybe take a bit of a breather. 

Edited 16 hours ago by gehringer_2

[SeattleMike]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

For the season McGonigle has as many PA at AA as at A by now, and his BA/OPS is down 130/220 pts on the transition to AA. He's finding some challenges to overcome that he wasn't at A ball. Hype train can maybe take a bit of a breather. 

In fairness his BABIP is 160 points lower in AA than A+. No doubt his contact quality is lower in AA, but a some of this, maybe a good deal of it, is simple bad luck. 

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

In fairness his BABIP is 160 points lower in AA than A+. No doubt his contact quality is lower in AA, but a some of this, maybe a good deal of it, is simple bad luck. 

And/Or the 150 PA at A ball may have included some good luck.

[TigerNation]

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

For the season McGonigle has as many PA at AA as at A by now, and his BA/OPS is down 130/220 pts on the transition to AA. He's finding some challenges to overcome that he wasn't at A ball. Hype train can maybe take a bit of a breather. 

BB%, K%, and ISO are the only relevant stats to look at, at least that are publicly available. Statcast data would be relevant of course as well, and the most recent update we've gotten from that was elite.

Hype train has only gone up with his performance in AA, he's very clearly not being challenged.

[TigerNation]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

And/Or the 150 PA at A ball may have included some good luck.

If your analysis involves BABIP, or stats influenced by BABIP, your analysis is worthless.

[tiger2022]

These guys aren't exactly dominating in AA, yet they are supposed to come up and be better than All Star performers?

These guys aren't ready for mlb.  Give them a chance to develop in AA for God's sake.

[TigerNation]

4 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

These guys aren't exactly dominating in AA, yet they are supposed to come up and be better than All Star performers?

These guys aren't ready for mlb.  Give them a chance to develop in AA for God's sake.

McGonigle is absolutely dominating AA lol.

[tiger2022]

4 minutes ago, TigerNation said:

McGonigle is absolutely dominating AA lol.

I would never say a player with a .246 BA is dominating anything.  But at least you got to feel dismissive towards someone else by typing lol in your response.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

I would never say a player with a .246 BA is dominating anything.  But at least you got to feel dismissive towards someone else by typing lol in your response.

actually, regardless of whether the results output is a matter of bad luck or needing to catch up, either way less dramatic outcome numbers will still lower the attention being paid to the young man, which is probably a good thing.