5/21/25 1:15PM Tigers @ Cardinals

[chasfh]

31 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

And helping out the Cubbies!

Yeah, they're my local neighborhood team and they're not in the Tigers' way, so I'm good with that.

[gehringer_2]

5 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

.660 ball....on pace for 107 wins. Yeah, no way.

Tigers have won 100 games 5 times in franchise history:

1915: 100 - Cobb and Crawford

1934:101 - Mickey Cochrane and the G row of the HOF, Greenberg,  Gehringer, Goslin

1961:101  - Norm cash wins the batting title - probably with corked bats, and they still lose the pennant to the Yankees

1968:103 - First in the hearts of all current Tiger old-timers. The team that looked  Bob Gibson in the eye and said "We got this."

1984:104 - A great team that should have won more but for a terrible FO.

That's it. So we are due, amirite?

[Sports_Freak]

8 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Yeah, they're my local neighborhood team and they're not in the Tigers' way, so I'm good with that.

My son goes to most of the Cubs games. His wife works for them and they live within walking distance. But his first love is still the Tigers and the other Detroit teams.

[Sports_Freak]

20 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

In addition to Skubal, both Reese and Jobe have negative platoon OPS against splits - they have been handling LHH.

The good part about a staff that throws the change-up.

Extend Fetter....

[lordstanley]

2025 Tigers: 33-17, 1st in MLB by 2.0 games, 1st in AL by 4.0 games, 1st in AL Central by 4.5 games

Records of other notable Tigers teams after 50 games:

1934: 30-20 (101-53, lost WS)

1935: 27-23 (93-58, won WS)

1961: 33-17 (101-62, 2nd in AL)

1967: 31-19 (91-71, 2nd in AL)

1968: 31-19 (103-59, won WS)

1972: 28-22 (86-70, lost ALCS)

1984: 39-11 (104-58, won WS)

1987: 25-25 (98-64, lost ALCS)

1993: 30-20 (85-77, 3rd in AL East)

2006: 35-15 (95-67, lost WS

2012: 23-27 (88-74, lost WS)

2013: 29-21 (93-69, lost ALCS)

2014: 30-20 (90-72, lost ALDS)

2024: 23-27 (86-76, lost ALDS)

 

 

[chasfh]

50 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Extend Fetter....

Well, this graphic sure looks familiar! 😁

[chasfh]

3 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

2025 Tigers: 33-17, 1st in MLB by 2.0 games, 1st in AL by 4.0 games, 1st in AL Central by 4.5 games

Records of other notable Tigers teams after 50 games:

1934: 30-20 (101-53, lost WS)

1935: 27-23 (93-58, won WS)

1961: 33-17 (101-62, 2nd in AL)

1967: 31-19 (91-71, 2nd in AL)

1968: 31-19 (103-59, won WS)

1972: 28-22 (86-70, lost ALCS)

1984: 39-11 (104-58, won WS)

1987: 25-25 (98-64, lost ALCS)

1993: 30-20 (85-77, 3rd in AL East)

2006: 35-15 (95-67, lost WS

2012: 23-27 (88-74, lost WS)

2013: 29-21 (93-69, lost ALCS)

2014: 30-20 (90-72, lost ALDS)

2024: 23-27 (86-76, lost ALDS)

 

 

Any idea what is the best record the Tigers started out with when they did not make the playoffs, during the playoff era? Would that be 1993?

[IdahoBert]

I’m still reeling with amazement. I am amazed at how much they get out of the entire squad.

I have cringed in the past when we played other teams that were alleged to “play the game the right way.“ I was also always suspicious of this phrase in general.  

I’m willing to accept this description now for the Tigers, but it seems they’re not only “playing the game the right way“ but doing it in a different and better way than other teams have done. I know that’s what’s being inferred and it appears to be true.

A while ago, someone here posted that the Tigers are merely doing what Cleveland has been doing for years. I have a feeling we’re doing something different.

But I don’t bother following other teams closely enough to make a reasoned comparison.

[RandyMarsh]

46 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Any idea what is the best record the Tigers started out with when they did not make the playoffs, during the playoff era? Would that be 1993?

The 2007 team? Im pretty sure they got to like 15 games over .500 by one point in the first half of the season. 

Edited May 21 by RandyMarsh

[romad1]

Guardiaks and Twiniaks both lose in the same day...

[Sports_Freak]

44 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

I’m still reeling with amazement. I am amazed at how much they get out of the entire squad.

I have cringed in the past when we played other teams that were alleged to “play the game the right way.“ I was also always suspicious of this phrase in general.  

I’m willing to accept this description now for the Tigers, but I wonder if they’re not only “playing the game the right way“ but doing it in a different and better way than other teams have done.

It feels like that, but it’s so new to me and I don’t bother following other teams closely enough to make a reasoned comparison.

I heard a player say they use 26 guys who play the full 27 outs. I think it was Malloy after he hit a game winning hit. Deflecting credit to other players...

[RandyMarsh]

They remind me alot of some of those old Rays teams that were always good.

They have versatility up and down the lineup. Play good defense, run the bases well and always have players put in the best situation for them to succeed.

Hopefully unlike them we actually will win a World Series though. 

Edited May 21 by RandyMarsh

[IdahoBert]

9 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I heard a player say they use 26 guys who play the full 27 outs. I think it was Malloy after he hit a game winning hit. Deflecting credit to other players...

Yeah, he has a good attitude. It’s too bad that he’ll probably be one of the first to go. I supposed it’s hard to get your mojo going when you play intermittently, but I don’t know if he played every game for two weeks that he would get in a groove.

[IdahoBert]

I saw that Sunday’s game against Cleveland begins at 11:35 AM because it’s a nationally broadcast Roku game. That’ll be 9:35 AM for me. Heck that’s early. Skubal pitches and there will be no non-Roku coverage. But you can listen to Dan on radio.

[Tiger337]

14 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

They remind me alot of some of those old Rays teams that were always good.

They have versatility up and down the lineup. Play good defense, run the bases well and always have players put in the best situation for them to succeed.

Hopefully unlike them we actually will win a World Series though. 

And hopefully they don't sell every player that's good.  

[Shinzaki]

[Shinzaki]

Not no math genius...but it looks like that 87 team went 73-39 over the final 112 games...that was a hell of a run

[1776]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Any idea what is the best record the Tigers started out with when they did not make the playoffs, during the playoff era? Would that be 1993?

I remember that year well, particularly when the 1993 collapse began. They played a three game series in Baltimore starting June 22nd. We attended games two and three in that series. I remember listening to the game on the 22nd while I was washing and cleaning the car for the trip, not kidding. I was looking forward to seeing Camden Yards the following day for the first time. I was listening to Orioles radio that evening because I could get a clear signal and Jon Miller was calling Orioles games then. I clearly recall the blown lead while listening to the game that evening. That began a 10 game losing streak. I believe they lost 13 out of the next 14 games. It was the beginning of the end in 1993. 

[Arlington]

Going by history, if they win 100, they have a 60% chance of getting into the World Series and a 40% chance of winning. 

The 1915 team had a legendary outfield with Cobb, Crawford and Veach, their 3, 4 and 5 hitters.  Cobb had a monster year stealing 96 bases a record that stood until the 1960s.  Cobb lead the league in hits, Veach in doubles, and Crawford in triples.  No surprise, Cobb lead the league in runs and Crawford and Veach tied for first in RBIs.  I guess it was if Crawford didn't get Cobb in , Veach would.

I popped open the box score for June 27, 1915 and was surprised to see 4 starters hitting below 209 that late in the season.  They would all improve but no one other than the outfielders had a good offensive year.  Only one other  with OPS+s below average. 

I wonder if they would have batted the outfielders 1 - 2 - 3 like they would today instead of 3 - 4 - 5 if they would have won a couple more games and taken the pennant.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

And hopefully they don't sell every player that's good.  

And if they do have to trade a few, get a good return for them. Al Avila was jinxed.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

Yeah, he has a good attitude. It’s too bad that he’ll probably be one of the first to go. I supposed it’s hard to get your mojo going when you play intermittently, but I don’t know if he played every game for two weeks that he would get in a groove.

Vierling and Meadows coming back to take Malloy's and Baddoo's spots. And W. Perez stays down in Toledo. At least, that was be my guess. Vierling must be getting close by now. Maybe this weekend?

[Tigermojo]

24 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Vierling and Meadows coming back to take Malloy's and Baddoo's spots. And W. Perez stays down in Toledo. At least, that was be my guess. Vierling must be getting close by now. Maybe this weekend?

Vierling played the whole game at third today in Lakeland.

[VegasTiger]

3 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

I saw that Sunday’s game against Cleveland begins at 11:35 AM because it’s a nationally broadcast Roku game. That’ll be 9:35 AM for me. Heck that’s early. Skubal pitches and there will be no non-Roku coverage. But you can listen to Dan on radio.

WTF that's 8:35 here. I don't get up until 11:00

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, Tigermojo said:

Vierling played the whole game at third today in Lakeland.

Hinch loves to mix and match. Vierling can play 3rd and RF. Javy can play CF until Meadows comes back and then play 3rd base or SS to rest Sweeney. All these players should get plenty of time, it's Baddoo and Malloy that'll end up back in Toledo. At least, that's my guess.

[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

9 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

I saw that Sunday’s game against Cleveland begins at 11:35 AM because it’s a nationally broadcast Roku game. That’ll be 9:35 AM for me. Heck that’s early. Skubal pitches and there will be no non-Roku coverage. But you can listen to Dan on radio.

Like for VegasTiger, that's 8:35 here. wtf. fortunately, it's a home game, so it should be available on mlb.tv with the 97.1 radio overlay some hours after the fact. assuming the Tigers win, I probably won't even watch it until early evening.

Edited May 22 by Crazy Cat Gentleman