2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[chasfh]

Some insight from Harris. 

 

[SoCalTiger]

I am happy with this trade deadline "haul" and retaining our core prospects. But I value "success" by having a large percentage of the season , April thru October, as being relevant rather than just rings. Baseball is a very long season and having experienced so many without hope and so few with titles I appreciate the measured approach. Winning at the MLB level and watching players progress from draft to Detroit is enjoyable for me. I remember Harris stating something very similar during his opening press conference after being hired. It's when I knew we had the right guy.

[SoCalTiger]

13 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Wow, I didn’t realize the Twins were eating so much money on the Correa deal.

Well … not as much as Avila ate on the Verlander deal … 

 

Funny after all of our struggles with El Mago it's Carlos Correa the salary dump. 

[papalawrence]

13 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Wow, I didn’t realize the Twins were eating so much money on the Correa deal.

Well … not as much as Avila ate on the Verlander deal … 

 

I've lived in Minneapolis for 25 years. The fans here loathe the Pohlad family. If this does lead to a change of ownership, fans  be happy. 

[Hinchman11]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I feel like this trade deadline was a MASSIVE failure.      Of course, 29 teams will have failed at the deadline and the Tigers will just be one of them, but the time was now.   Wait the F are we waiting for anyway.   Skubal is probably at his peak right now.  Torkelson has been pretty average after a hot start.   The likelyhood of the fantasyland version McKinstry and Baez repeating this year is pretty slim.   Parker Meadows, if he can even stay healthy, has not grown from last season and the best prospects are post CBA players.    The time was now

This is an extremely young team and I am ok not parting with minor league prospects/depth for 12 weeks os Suarez or a year and 12 weeks of Bendar, who was trash last season.

isn’t that the point of depth? Tork should have been in Toledo and Baez would have never played center if it weren’t for injuries or regression. And so what if Baez or McKinstry regress, you still haven’t mortgaged your depth by keeping your prospects. Teams paid significantly this year and none of these would have guaranteed anything.

 

 

 

 

[casimir]

1 hour ago, lordstanley said:

Key is Skubal, Mize and Flaherty staying healthy. If they are, everything else will fall into place, the Tigers have plenty of tools.

Yup, this is basically it.  Morton and Paddock to round out the rotation.  Lots of bullpen options to sort through.  Melton factors into that now (and maybe Olson does as well in time for the playoffs).  Finnegan, Holton, and Vest as the end of game trio.

The offense is fine.  They had the recent stumble.  But they've been fine aside from that.  And given the playoff schedule, they can drop a pitcher and add a bat, probably RHH.

The deadline was unspectacular.  I'm not all that surprised.  I'd have preferred Merrill Kelly as a SP addition.  I'd have preferred Bednar as a RP addition.  I think Castro would have been a fine bat that fits the position player usage.  But I'm not surprised by the under the radar additions.

[oblong]

You don’t build a team for the playoffs.  They have a huge division lead. Don’t sacrifice to build on that. If you can’t win the division this year with what you have won to this point then that itself is a reason going “all in” would be a mistake.  One player doesn’t prevent a massive slump. This org and players have been at the highest performance over the last calendar year. They have earned the benefit of the doubt. I have no beef with today.  People get caught upon the adrenaline and breaking news and psychologically feel left out and assume something is wrong.  I like that the org isn’t holding to some idea of a “window” like they did 10 years ago because we had a dying Ilitch and Cabrera and Verlanders careers to worry about.  We don’t have to win now because of Skubal.  Give us a system that contends every year and let the pieces fall where they do.  

[Tigermojo]

Fans get caught up in the emotions but Harris is paid not to. He has to evaluate who WILL be good. We all know who HAS been good and that's what fans focus on. All of us here know performance in April doesn't mean anything in October.

Let's use Suarez as an example. Great power numbers in the first half. Does that mean he's worth the price the Tigers have to pay for his second half performance at Comerica park? Harris didn't think so and I think he's right. Without the power numbers, Suarez is a poor fielder and Detroit has multiple options at third who could provide value at that position.

[monkeytargets39]

23 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

I've lived in Minneapolis for 25 years. The fans here loathe the Pohlad family. If this does lead to a change of ownership, fans  be happy. 

Hadn’t they already said they were looking for a partner to sell to?

[casimir]

So Finnegan, Morton, and Montero need roster spots.  So long to Jackson, Kahnle, and Lee?

[Sports_Freak]

Translation: he was scared;

[Sports_Freak]

3 minutes ago, casimir said:

So Finnegan, Morton, and Montero need roster spots.  So long to Jackson, Kahnle, and Lee?

Keep Kahnle and Montero to Toledo?

Edited 19 hours ago by Sports_Freak

[casimir]

Just now, Sports_Freak said:

Keep Kahnle and Montero to Toledo?

I suppose that could be it if Montero has options.  I don’t know if he does.

[Sports_Freak]

14 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

Fans get caught up in the emotions but Harris is paid not to. He has to evaluate who WILL be good. We all know who HAS been good and that's what fans focus on. All of us here know performance in April doesn't mean anything in October.

Let's use Suarez as an example. Great power numbers in the first half. Does that mean he's worth the price the Tigers have to pay for his second half performance at Comerica park? Harris didn't think so and I think he's right. Without the power numbers, Suarez is a poor fielder and Detroit has multiple options at third who could provide value at that position.

The Tigers have the least production out of 3rd base in all of ML baseball.

Also, we have 28 road games away from Comerica remaining. Plus the playoffs.

[Jason_R]

"Some of them are going to get here this year."

[Sports_Freak]

3 minutes ago, casimir said:

I suppose that could be it if Montero has options.  I don’t know if he does.

Scott brought Kahnle in. I don't see him releasing him. Hanifee? Hurter, who I like and think we need.

[casimir]

1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said:

The Tigers have the least production out of 3rd base in all of ML baseball.

Also, we have 28 road games away from Comerica remaining. Plus the playoffs.

How do you figure the Tigers have the least production out of 3B in all of baseball? They’re middle of the pack on bbref WAR.

[Sports_Freak]

1 minute ago, Jason_R said:

"Some of them are going to get here this year."

Yeah, I caught that. Kreidler? Or Baddoo? 🤣🤣🤣

[Sports_Freak]

Just now, casimir said:

How do you figure the Tigers have the least production out of 3B in all of baseball? They’re middle of the pack on bbref WAR.

Batting average, RBI and home runs?

[gehringer_2]

Just now, casimir said:

How do you figure the Tigers have the least production out of 3B in all of baseball? They’re middle of the pack on bbref WAR.

plus the situation changes a lot from the 1st half when you factor in that Keith is now also an option at 3rd, which allows Torres, Tork and him to all be in the game and still save DH to add a Perez.Veirling or Carp in the  at DH.

[Sports_Freak]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

plus the situation changes a lot from the 1st half when you factor in that Keith is now also an option at 3rd, which allows Torres, Tork and him to all be in the game and still save DH to add a Perez.Veirling or Carp in the  at DH.

Yeah, apparently there's been more production there. This was from the end of May/early June;

https://www.si.com/mlb/tigers/news/tigers-production-third-base-continues-to-drag-franchise-success

Don't say Suarez wouldn't have been an upgrade because of Comerica and questionable defense. His defense has been good enough for several teams over several years. And he was wanted by a few teams at the deadline. Sour grapes....

[Sports_Freak]

50 minutes ago, Hinchman11 said:

This is an extremely young team and I am ok not parting with minor league prospects/depth for 12 weeks os Suarez or a year and 12 weeks of Bendar, who was trash last season.

isn’t that the point of depth? Tork should have been in Toledo and Baez would have never played center if it weren’t for injuries or regression. And so what if Baez or McKinstry regress, you still haven’t mortgaged your depth by keeping your prospects. Teams paid significantly this year and none of these would have guaranteed anything.

 

 

 

 

I agree to an extent. But having a stocked minor league system isn't just to bring guys to Detroit, it's also to use for trades. How many middle infield prospects does a team need? Or outfielder prospects? We'll never carry 4 2nd basement. Or 7 outfield minor league prospects. OTOH, I'm pleased we didn't trade our top prospects.

[monkeytargets39]

32 minutes ago, casimir said:

So Finnegan, Morton, and Montero need roster spots.  So long to Jackson, Kahnle, and Lee?

Well Enns was dealt to Baltimore, so there’s one free spot.  I assume Jackson and then either Lee or Montero goes to Toledo

[lordstanley]

 

[gehringer_2]

30 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Yeah, apparently there's been more production there. This was from the end of May/early June;

https://www.si.com/mlb/tigers/news/tigers-production-third-base-continues-to-drag-franchise-success

Don't say Suarez wouldn't have been an upgrade because of Comerica and questionable defense. His defense has been good enough for several teams over several years. And he was wanted by a few teams at the deadline. Sour grapes....

I looked at Suarez' hit chart the other day and most of his HRs have been pulled to well to left or fairly far around oppo - it doesn't look like he hits much to where death valley is at COPA, so I agree there wouldn't have been any great park effect for him. I think they didn't go that way just because the team sees more potential upgrade differential in shoring up the pitching than in the offensive increment between Suarez and who might end up sitting in his place - esp if that is  Keith or Torres.

Edited 19 hours ago by gehringer_2