Trade Ideas - Throw em out there an share your vote - 2025 Deadline

[AlaskanTigersFan]

2 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

And I have no problem trading prospects.  I’d definitely include 2 or our top 5 for someone like Gore who would be a difference maker for us for multiple years.  I’d include 1 for Clase or Duran (Twins) who would be affordable difference making closers for multiple years.  Heck, I’d include 3-4 of them for Jose Ramirez 🤪Just not any of them (top 5) for a rental.

You've been my boy up till this point lol. I wouldn't trade what it'd cost for Gore. If you're talking Liranzo for Clase or Duran, thats one thing. But not a Tier 1 guy.

[RedTeamGo!]

On 7/24/2025 at 3:26 PM, tiger2022 said:

Why would the Reds do this?  2.5 games out of the wildcard.  Matt McLain in his 2nd season at 2nd.

It needs to make sense for the other team...just not a trade that helps the Tigers.

So, I am a Reds fan that grew up closer to Detroit (Toledo, OH), so I still follow the Tigers as well. McLain is indeed at 2nd. However, he has not been particularly good this year, and he could always move to the OF or 3B. Not sold Sal Stewart will be able to stay at 3B as he gets older and larger. Also, Max Anderson is another trade chip the Reds could use to acquire more talent in the offseason for an actual run next year. They have a solid young rotation and Elly De La Cruz. If they don't do much again this offseason it will be terrible. 

[4hzglory]

12 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

You've been my boy up till this point lol. I wouldn't trade what it'd cost for Gore. If you're talking Liranzo for Clase or Duran, thats one thing. But not a Tier 1 guy.

I honestly probably value Liranzo higher than Briceno-1 year older, can stick at C, switch hitter, even with slow start at AA (similar to last year at high A) has above average OPS.  Fits timeline of Rogers hitting FA.  If it’s me, I’m not trading him for a rental.

Edited Friday at 07:33 PM by 4hzglory

[4hzglory]

13 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

You've been my boy up till this point lol. I wouldn't trade what it'd cost for Gore. If you're talking Liranzo for Clase or Duran, thats one thing. But not a Tier 1 guy.

And the goal is setting the major league team up for the highest probability sustained success meaning the chance of competing for championships.

 So again, I don’t trade the top prospects for a 1 time chance, or someone who isn’t an impact player, but if I can get proven difference makers at positions of need under affordable control for multiple years, then they probably have the highest probability of meeting the aforementioned goal.  (And I probably make it a top 6 with Rodriguez being #6 due to his high upside-not trading him for the rentals that are on the market.)

[AlaskanTigersFan]

3 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

And the goal is setting the major league team up for the highest probability sustained success meaning the chance of competing for championships.

 So again, I don’t trade the top prospects for a 1 time chance, or someone who isn’t an impact player, but if I can get proven difference makers at positions of need under affordable control for multiple years, then they probably have the highest probability of meeting the aforementioned goal.  (And I probably make it a top 6 with Rodriguez being #6 due to his high upside-not trading him for the rentals that are on the market.)

Would you trade McGonigle and Clark for Gore? Because right now, as crazy as that sounds, that's probably what it'd take. I for sure wouldn't do that. I just want to see what you're saying exactly...... 

[AlaskanTigersFan]

July 25: Padres made blockbuster trade proposal to Red Sox involving Cease, Duran (report)

The Padres, who have had reported interest in Red Sox outfielder Jarren Duran for months, proposed an offer to the Red Sox for the 28-year-old that would have sent starting pitcher Dylan Cease, catcher Ethan Salas (MLB's No. 21 prospect) and another prospect to Boston. However, according to Sean McAdam of MassLive.com (subscription required), the Red Sox "quickly rejected" the deal.

Boston Red Sox are phaking Nutz....... They must reaaaaaaaaally love Teel. Crazy. Salas lost some helium this year, but this kid is a frickin stud... Let alone getting Cease. Duran is an average left fielder..... 

[4hzglory]

21 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

Would you trade McGonigle and Clark for Gore? Because right now, as crazy as that sounds, that's probably what it'd take. I for sure wouldn't do that. I just want to see what you're saying exactly...... 

I’d do 1 of them (or Rainer)  and one of Briceno, Liranzo, C Rod plus more from the rest of our system 

Edited Friday at 08:08 PM by 4hzglory

[Toddwert]

14 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

July 25: Padres made blockbuster trade proposal to Red Sox involving Cease, Duran (report)

The Padres, who have had reported interest in Red Sox outfielder Jarren Duran for months, proposed an offer to the Red Sox for the 28-year-old that would have sent starting pitcher Dylan Cease, catcher Ethan Salas (MLB's No. 21 prospect) and another prospect to Boston. However, according to Sean McAdam of MassLive.com (subscription required), the Red Sox "quickly rejected" the deal.

Boston Red Sox are phaking Nutz....... They must reaaaaaaaaally love Teel. Crazy. Salas lost some helium this year, but this kid is a frickin stud... Let alone getting Cease. Duran is an average left fielder..... 

had to be more to this

[AlaskanTigersFan]

1 minute ago, 4hzglory said:

I’d do 1 of them (or Rainer)  and one of Briceno, Liranzo, C Rod

Man, thats a tough one. Max Clark and Briceno for Gore..... Sheeeeesh. I'd say no just because I like position players more than pitchers. I think how you value prospects and players though falls in line with my thoughts......

[tiger2022]

A catcher is not anything to get excited by.  Look at all the other supposedly future superstar catchers lately.  Joey Bart, Patrick Bailey, Adley Rutschman, and on and on.  I absolutely hate when teams draft catchers high in the draft.  And if for some reason they do hit, you want to move them to a different position.

[AlaskanTigersFan]

Just now, tiger2022 said:

A catcher is not anything to get excited by.  Look at all the other supposedly future superstar catchers lately.  Joey Bart, Patrick Bailey, Adley Rutschman, and on and on.  I absolutely hate when teams draft catchers high in the draft.  And if for some reason they do hit, you want to move them to a different position.

I think Rutschman is still the real deal. You look at his underlying numbers, he's just super unlucky. He should be close to a top 5 C right now. If the Orioles are stupid enough to trade him now it'd be a colossal mistake. 

[chasfh]

Past prospect performance is not indicative of future results.

[AlaskanTigersFan]

5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Past prospect performance is not indicative of future results.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/adley-rutschman-668939?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb - He should be expected .800 OPS as a catcher.... I'll take that all day long. 

I think when he gets back, he's gonna be a monster. Calling it here 🙂

[1984Echoes]

Can we combine the two trade threads?

[AlaskanTigersFan]

3 hours ago, alex said:

Regardless of who gets who, teams are not trading top 100 or let alone top 50 MLB prospects to get a player who may help. For whatever reason, it seems if Detroit is to make a deal for a player (not a mediocre RP, but I am ok with that) that for some reason, WE/Detroit have to give up the farm? That is not going to happen.

Here's Bowdens article: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6515156/2025/07/25/mlb-trade-deadline-scenarios-yankees-dodgers/

Reds reunite with their former third baseman

Reds get: 3B Eugenio Suárez
Diamondbacks get: 3B Cam Collier, RHP Chase Petty, LHP Adam Serwinowski

Just to give an outside MLB Perspective. Cam Collier is #56 right now and Chase Petty is currently #98 on MLB.com's prospect ranking. So, he thinks teams would essentially trade two top-100 prospects for Suarez. 

Again, until it happens, not saying a GM would actually do it for sure. But an outsider looking in with a lot of baseball knowledge seems to think the Value is worth two 100 top prospects and another (Serwinowski is Cincinnati's top LHP prospect too). Quite a haul if something like that were to happen.  

[4hzglory]

26 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

Here's Bowdens article: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6515156/2025/07/25/mlb-trade-deadline-scenarios-yankees-dodgers/

Reds reunite with their former third baseman

Reds get: 3B Eugenio Suárez
Diamondbacks get: 3B Cam Collier, RHP Chase Petty, LHP Adam Serwinowski

Just to give an outside MLB Perspective. Cam Collier is #56 right now and Chase Petty is currently #98 on MLB.com's prospect ranking. So, he thinks teams would essentially trade two top-100 prospects for Suarez. 

Again, until it happens, not saying a GM would actually do it for sure. But an outsider looking in with a lot of baseball knowledge seems to think the Value is worth two 100 top prospects and another (Serwinowski is Cincinnati's top LHP prospect too). Quite a haul if something like that were to happen.  

Bowden is known for vastly overestimating what players will get in a trade-he seems to still be thinking it is like when he was last GM.

for perspective 0 top 100 prospects were traded at last years deadline.

In 2023, 3 were with the highest rank being #72.

2022 was the anomaly-8 were but 3 of them were in the Juan Soto trade when he was under control for 2 1/2 years. And 2 were for a Luis Castillo under control for at least 3 1/2 years

2021 3 were

2020 -1 #73

All the way back to 2018, 0 top 10 prospects were traded, 5 top 25, 5 26-50

 

referenced from Baseball America article 

Edited Friday at 10:55 PM by 4hzglory

[SoCalTiger]

My money is Suarez will not bring a top 100 prospect in return from anybody apart from LA 

[papalawrence]

As a prisoner of the moment, thoughts entering my mind:

Given Detroit's regression, I'm thinking Harris does little at the deadline. And if the Tigers bow out early in the post season, I believe Harris will listen to offers on Skubal.

Edited Saturday at 01:55 AM by papalawrence

[Tenacious D]

This team does not look like one that will make the postseason, unless the Guardians do become sellers—which would be foolish of them.

[monkeytargets39]

I will be highly disappointed if any of the top 6 prospects get moved at the deadline.

[Klondike]

If anything, they may become sellers. It's time to think of the future. The present ain't it yet. Getting some second-line talent that may not work out anyway seems futile.

[Shinzaki]

The regression of Flaherty,Vierling and Meadows has really hurt us.  Alex Cobb being a non factor has as well.

I can't see being seller when you're in 1st place...but trading any of our top guys for a short term solution would be foolish.   I don't think this team is a band aid away from championship level

 

[chasfh]

All-Star curse?

[1776]

1 hour ago, Shinzaki said:

The regression of Flaherty,Vierling and Meadows has really hurt us.  Alex Cobb being a non factor has as well.

I can't see being seller when you're in 1st place...but trading any of our top guys for a short term solution would be foolish.   I don't think this team is a band aid away from championship level

 

It has been my impression that at the top of all the problems the team is having, it all started with the erosion of quality starts by the rotation. In my very own unscientific observations, the bullpen problems originated with being asked to cover too many innings due to poor starts in the rotation. I know pitching chaos was intriguing last year but I didn’t imagine it would still be a thing this year, out of necessity for the most part.
With what I’ve scribbled above, I’ll also say I believe the poor starting pitching has put more pressure on the offense now. Falling behind in games early and often puts pressure on the offense to keep the team in the game. I’d guess some guys are pressing offensively. 

The Cobb signing was not thought out well in my opinion.  Cobb has missed a lot of time the past couple of years. Harris knew Cobb from his time in SF so I guess he saw something he liked. It would be wonderful if Cobb could give them five innings every fifth day beginning very soon. I’m not optimistic. 

This week will be very interesting. Starting pitching would be at the top of my list. GOOD starting pitching. 
 

[RatkoVarda]

I think this recent hellride changes what Harris does, but also it 100% guarantees that Harris will have to do something.

If they blow a 15.5 game lead, he cannot have every story include:

"and Harris' moves at the trade deadline showed he was either too risk adverse or simply too afraid to trade prospects, and too stubborn to depart from his 8 year rebuilding plan."