Sports_Freak Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said: 1, 2, 3, and 4 are the divisional winners; 5, 6, and 7 are wildcards. 1 - bye 7@2 6@3 5@4 So a #2 seed now gets 2 home games. Maybe 3 if someone knocks off the #1 seed. That sounds good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number20 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 4:10 AM, Jimbo said: The biggest concern I have right now are the injuries. Can't keep losing guys every week. I wouldn't plan on the Lions ever getting back to "healthy" or full strength the entire rest of the season. By the time they get an injured player back, another will certainly go out. Just a matter of who and when. Pretty much the same for any NFL team, more or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I mean are we moving to flag soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Reportedly Caleb Williams is going to demand ownership stake in any team that drafts him. Dont see any team going for that cause that may start a precedent but we shall see. Aside from that I wonder how that would effect the salary cap situation? Like what if they sign him to say a few million a year and compensate the rest in ownership stake? Would that team in turn only have the few million go against them on the cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 😂😂😂 Hasn’t played a down in the NFL. Wants to be paid like he had Tom Brady’s career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagnam Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 12 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I mean are we moving to flag soon? I personally want to see the best players play so any rules that limit bad players from injuring good players that burn them is fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said: Reportedly Caleb Williams is going to demand ownership stake in any team that drafts him. Dont see any team going for that cause that may start a precedent but we shall see. Aside from that I wonder how that would effect the salary cap situation? Like what if they sign him to say a few million a year and compensate the rest in ownership stake? Would that team in turn only have the few million go against them on the cap? Hope he enjoys Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 12 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I mean are we moving to flag soon? I don’t really understand what their alternative solution is. If a guy gets caught from behind, is the defender supposed to just hold him there in position until someone else can tackle him from the front? He’s still defenseless in that scenario. Jump on top and get carried for a ride? That’s not tackling. Or are they supposed to clip them, and just make the tackle low from behind? That’s likely more dangerous that the hip drop. I’m not surprised that tackles from behind are more injurious than tackles from the front, but I think any further rule change there would require substantial change in the way football is played. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I don’t really understand what their alternative solution is. If a guy gets caught from behind, is the defender supposed to just hold him there in position until someone else can tackle him from the front? He’s still defenseless in that scenario. Jump on top and get carried for a ride? That’s not tackling. Or are they supposed to clip them, and just make the tackle low from behind? That’s likely more dangerous that the hip drop. I’m not surprised that tackles from behind are more injurious than tackles from the front, but I think any further rule change there would require substantial change in the way football is played. yeah - I'm not sure I'm seeing what they want the tackler to do differently either, but you assume that must have something more specific in mind - maybe just don't roll up on him? Edited October 18, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said: Reportedly Caleb Williams is going to demand ownership stake in any team that drafts him. Dont see any team going for that cause that may start a precedent but we shall see. Aside from that I wonder how that would effect the salary cap situation? Like what if they sign him to say a few million a year and compensate the rest in ownership stake? Would that team in turn only have the few million go against them on the cap? after the nd game there have been some questions about williams. drake maye is nipping at his heels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, buddha said: after the nd game there have been some questions about williams. drake maye is nipping at his heels. Exaclty, under pressure he looked pretty pedestrian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: yeah - I'm not sure I'm seeing what they want the tackler to do differently either, but you assume that must have something more specific in mind - maybe just don't roll up on him? I think to come out with a directive that players should attempt to avoid putting their weight on the back of the legs of an offensive player while making a tackle is fine. Punitively though, make it a warning and then a fine, not yet another extremely subjective 15-yard penalty in the game official’s tool belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Saints are bad. Carr is worse and the saints have the worst cap situation heading into 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 I will never understand a shotgun snap from 4th and and inches. Basically makes it 4th and 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, TP_Fan said: Saints are bad. Carr is worse and the saints have the worst cap situation heading into 2024. Carr is bad. But he also gets hot, he's very inconsistent. And I'm not sure if New Orleans have O-Line injuries but they don't look very good. Kamara can still break off big chunks of yards though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, TP_Fan said: I will never understand a shotgun snap from 4th and and inches. Basically makes it 4th and 2. It finds a gap instead of running into 500 pounds of humanity. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Jags coaching sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Lucky for the Saints the Jags suck too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/18/2023 at 10:16 AM, RandyMarsh said: Reportedly Caleb Williams is going to demand ownership stake in any team that drafts him. Dont see any team going for that cause that may start a precedent but we shall see. Aside from that I wonder how that would effect the salary cap situation? Like what if they sign him to say a few million a year and compensate the rest in ownership stake? Would that team in turn only have the few million go against them on the cap? I think Caleb Williams is doing the right thing here and all players should be demanding the same. Teams should be functioning as either public-owned (like the Green Bay Packers) or worker-owned cooperatives and not money making machines for billionaire owners. Caleb Williams has every right to demand control over the means of production for the team he played for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Ben Johnson's would have called plays for 40 points on this Saints defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I think Caleb Williams is doing the right thing here and all players should be demanding the same. Teams should be functioning as either public-owned (like the Green Bay Packers) or worker-owned cooperatives and not money making machines for billionaire owners. Caleb Williams has every right to demand control over the means of production for the team he played for. The problem is, he won’t get it. Not until his future Union bargains for it in the CBA. Which probably won’t make it to the final contract, because the vast majority of players would never be good enough or rich enough to demand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 43 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I think Caleb Williams is doing the right thing here and all players should be demanding the same. Teams should be functioning as either public-owned (like the Green Bay Packers) or worker-owned cooperatives and not money making machines for billionaire owners. Caleb Williams has every right to demand control over the means of production for the team he played for. lol. no. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: The problem is, he won’t get it. Not until his future Union bargains for it in the CBA. Which probably won’t make it to the final contract, because the vast majority of players would never be good enough or rich enough to demand it. its not a "problem." no rookie qb will or SHOULD get any ounce of ownership unless they want to pony up their money to get it. nor should any employee. players come and go, the franchise remains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, buddha said: its not a "problem." no rookie qb will or SHOULD get any ounce of ownership unless they want to pony up their money to get it. nor should any employee. players come and go, the franchise remains. It’s a problem for him if he expects a team to pony that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Anybody has the right to demand it, ownership has the right to deny it. Don't think it would likely to happen. There are not many owners who would ever want one player enough to offer them a cut of the team and as a group the owners could never bargain it away because there would be enough owners completely and adamantly opposed it could never become a league bargaining position. A rare end of career deal to a HOF player looking to move into management long term maybe, but that's different situation from a rookie contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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