holygoat Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Whoever the Lions sign these next couple weeks will just be to get us to the trade deadline, where they will make a move for a legit CB. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted October 7 Posted October 7 for a team crushed by CB injuries, not sure why an injured CB is the answer Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 7 Posted October 7 These are the type of injury situations that really kill a team. You can deal with multiple big injuries throughout different parts of your team but when they all happen to the same position group forcing you to load up with waiver Wire type players it is just devastating. Especially at such an important position as DB. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Honestly, I don’t think Robertson and Ya Sin are that bad as your starting corners. Reed will be back. Just need to hold the fort down these next couple games. Quote
4hzglory Posted October 7 Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: That would be huge. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted October 7 Posted October 7 (edited) resurget cineribus Edited October 7 by MichiganCardinal 1 Quote
Jason_R Posted October 7 Posted October 7 “Hopes to avoid IR.” If I understand IR as a four-week stint minimum, this would mean he now thinks he could be back for Minnesota in Week 9, right after the bye. Incidentally, since McNeil was questionable on Sunday, I assume he is likely to go against the Chiefs. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 19 minutes ago, Jason_R said: “Hopes to avoid IR.” If I understand IR as a four-week stint minimum, this would mean he now thinks he could be back for Minnesota in Week 9, right after the bye. Incidentally, since McNeil was questionable on Sunday, I assume he is likely to go against the Chiefs. really looking forward to having McNeil back. If he is anywhere near full strength it immediately makes it a lot less likely a QB can step up to avoid Hutch. Quote
Nate7474 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: really looking forward to having McNeil back. If he is anywhere near full strength it immediately makes it a lot less likely a QB can step up to avoid Hutch. I'm sure he'll be on a snap count until his cardio gets better. Since the current group is doing well against the run my guess is the majority of his snaps the first couple weeks back are going to be passing downs. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Arnold was flagged to be out for a long time. Glad to see that call got overturned and he will not be possibly coming back sooner than expected. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 39 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Arnold was flagged to be out for a long time. Glad to see that call got overturned and he will not be possibly coming back sooner than expected. That is the kind of injury luck you need to end up as the last team standing in the NFL Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted October 7 Posted October 7 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: That is the kind of injury luck you need to end up as the last team standing in the NFL The tides are turning… last year, both Reed and Arnold would have been season ending. McNeill would have suffered a setback. Knock on wood but things are looking up. Need to keep it that way. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 8 Posted October 8 14 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Arnold was flagged to be out for a long time. Glad to see that call got overturned and he will not be possibly coming back sooner than expected. I see what you did there. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 8 Posted October 8 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: When does the MVP talk start for Goff? Not yet apparently Quote
RedRamage Posted October 9 Posted October 9 15 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Not yet apparently Meh... as I've said way too many times already: Football is the most team sport there is of the major sports. EPA per Dropback, from what I can tell, basically judges if the QB added or lost "points" (not sure how points are defined for this stat) for each dropback to pass. But... how do you judge how much of that is the QBs fault vs. the OL or Receivers or what? I mean the one play where Manu totally whiffed his block and Goff was sacked nearly instantly. Goff I'm sure got a negative EPA on that play when it clearly wasn't his fault. And "Create Rate" seems to judge how well a QB can make something happen if the called play failed. Obviously more mobile QBs are gonna be higher here on average, but this is just one aspect of judging a QB. What if your QB is really good at reading the defense and checks out of plays that he suspects will fail? Should not this be counted? He created an advantage before the play even started. I have no problem with using more stats to try to figure out a players value. The most we have the more we can try to cut through the "Was it him or was it the team?" question. I DO have a problem with looking at two stats, graphing them, then declaring that those QBs who are good in these two areas are MVP worthy. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) Just another example of people putting too much emphasis on the 10-20% of the time things don't go as planned instead of the 80-90% of the time they do. It would be like solely judging an NBA player by how well he performs when the offense breaks down and it's forced to put up a shot to beat the 24 or an mlb player by how well he hits tough pitches or how he performs behind in the count. You just don't see that in other sports or positions except for qb for some reason. Edited October 9 by RandyMarsh Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 9 Posted October 9 "Jared Goff's a really good player. And here's another thing — have you ever noticed that with Jared Goff, his coordinators get head coaching jobs? He's like a stimulus package," Cowherd said. "Every coordinator he has, everyone's like, 'That's a good coordinator.' Yeah, because they've got Jared Goff.” He’s not wrong. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 9 Posted October 9 21 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Just another example of people putting too much emphasis on the 10-20% of the time things don't go as planned instead of the 80-90% of the time they do. It would be like solely judging an NBA player by how well he performs when the offense breaks down and it's forced to put up a shot to beat the 24 or an mlb player by how well he hits tough pitches or how he performs behind in the count. You just don't see that in other sports or positions except for qb for some reason. I think you see it in baseball with the Gold Glove. Torii Hunter won Gold Gloves due to his athletic plays in CF. Austin Jackson infamously never dove but was always in the right place at the right time because he always got a good read on the ball. Same with mobile and pocket QBs. A QB like Jackson who rushes for 10 yards is viewed more favorably than a QB who checks into the right play and throws for 10 yards. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 9 Posted October 9 2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I think you see it in baseball with the Gold Glove. Torii Hunter won Gold Gloves due to his athletic plays in CF. Austin Jackson infamously never dove but was always in the right place at the right time because he always got a good read on the ball. Same with mobile and pocket QBs. A QB like Jackson who rushes for 10 yards is viewed more favorably than a QB who checks into the right play and throws for 10 yards. That's true but I think with defensive metrics becoming more prevalent that line of thinking is starting to go away with insiders and voters, it probably still exists with the common fan though. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Philly's defense is making Dart look like Joe Montana. Either the kid is a good young QB or Philadelphia has defensive issues. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Philly has issues on both sides of the ball. 1 Quote
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