chasfh Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, romad1 said: I think they are arguing that Putin is the only "Christian" leader and therefore we should support him. And obviously the only Christian person in the CCCP, which is why Jesus chose him to lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: And obviously the only Christian person in the CCCP, which is why Jesus chose him to lead. It doesn't argue for the sense-making of the neckbeard crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 41 minutes ago, romad1 said: I think they are arguing that Putin is the only "Christian" leader and therefore we should support him. It's ironic given that Russia, IIRC, has lower church attendance rates than the good ol' US of A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, mtutiger said: It's ironic given that Russia, IIRC, has lower church attendance rates than the good ol' US of A. These same fools think Russia is a bastion of gun ownership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 17 hours ago, romad1 said: I hope this is true. Putin isn't beyond making mistakes. To War or Not to War: The tightrope Putin now finds himself, and NATO/Biden/Ukraine/U.S./Europe by proximity, walking: https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-could-slam-head-tumble-095821356.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Good stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Vlad and Xi sitting in a tree, squeezing the life out of two democracies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 She's good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 hours ago, romad1 said: She's good The Atlantic always has in-depth, knowledgeable, non-partisan writing excellence. And yes, Applebaum is good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 It's a place where a sensible conservative like David Frum can write something interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 This is good The translation I get from google translate is : Quote #NordStream2 was and is an anti-European project and a major strategic mistake. #Illner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 IIRC Germany threatened stopping Nord 2 if Russia invaded Ukraine. I'll have to go look if that was real or not now though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Here it is: https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/germany-agrees-to-axe-nord-stream-2-if-russia-invades-ukraine/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Here it is: https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/germany-agrees-to-axe-nord-stream-2-if-russia-invades-ukraine/ good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 hours ago, romad1 said: good if this is true, I think it could be definitive. Money trumps emotion even in Putin's world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: if this is true, I think it could be definitive. Money trumps emotion even in Putin's world. Meh… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, romad1 said: Yep Haha! So funny. Bolton kicks Trump's ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Noclador is thinking the moves are starting to creep toward the start of this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, romad1 said: Noclador is thinking the moves are starting to creep toward the start of this thing. One thing with an odd odor to me in all this Romad - doesn't it seems odd to pick mid-winter in Europe to start a major armor blitzkrieg? The SO was just reading a so-called analysis piece that said - "oh yes winter is perfect, they can cross frozen rivers!" I'm sorry but I'd like to see the river frozen hard enough to hold up a 60 ton main battle tank. Edited February 6, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: One thing with an odd odor to me in all this Romad - doesn't it seems odd to pick mid-winter in Europe to start a major armor blitzkrieg? The SO was just reading a so-called analysis piece that said - "oh yes winter is perfect, they can cross frozen rivers!" I'm sorry but I'd like to see the river frozen hard enough to hold up a 60 ton main battle tank. You would think that. However, its actually notable how much hard packed ground of winter figures into the Russian big wins throughout history. Stalingrad was caused by a Operation Uranus in late 1942. The Red Army saved Moscow in winter 1941 because they shipped their Eastern Siberia army to Moscow via the railway. The Red Army was much more foot-borne in those days but having hard cold ground mattered as they were trying to move large forces at key vulnerable spots in the German lines. The traditional campaign seasons in the steppe are Winter when the ground is frozen and the hottest, driest part of the Summer. The muddy season which starts sooner than Vladdie would like would purportedly be a hinderance....except its modern times and all the roads have tarmac now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: One thing with an odd odor to me in all this Romad - doesn't it seems odd to pick mid-winter in Europe to start a major armor blitzkrieg? The SO was just reading a so-called analysis piece that said - "oh yes winter is perfect, they can cross frozen rivers!" I'm sorry but I'd like to see the river frozen hard enough to hold up a 60 ton main battle tank. As for crossing rivers. I don't actually know how likely that is. The rivers in Ukraine are the good kind that flow North to South which means they don't necessarily freeze up. Rivers in Siberia have the bad habit of flowing South to North which causes all sorts of swampiness when all that river backs up because of ice. However, having read all that. I see that the Dnipro does often freeze over. Regardless, the Russian Army have bridging equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, romad1 said: The muddy season which starts sooner than Vladdie would like would purportedly be a hinderance.... Ha! Forecast for Kyiv next week is all 30-40F. Maybe mother nature gets a work in here along with the pols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Ha! Forecast for Kyiv next week is all 30-40F. Maybe mother nature gets a work in here along with the pols. He is dying to do this. I think he's annoyed that the Olympics might be a problem for him and make his bank (Xi) unhappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Russians do love winter campaigns, Napoleon would vouch for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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