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Where Do Things End With Vlad? (h/t romad1)


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20 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

They've always been a rival of Russia.

It's a constant love/ hate relationship.

They loved purchasing the S-400's.

They must hate his war-threats right now so they sold Ukraine some wicked drones.

I recall they were big friends of Azerbaijan in the recent Armenia/Azerbaijan war.   These drones were a very successful part of that war

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39 minutes ago, romad1 said:

I won't forget that Trump tried to strong arm the President of Ukraine for his own political ends.  He was impeached over it.   Gutless punks in the GOP Senate wouldn't remove him but the facts are plain. 

Joe Biden DID strong arm the Ukraine government for his own benefit, bragged about it publically and the gutless punks in the democrat party ignored it.

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12 minutes ago, Archie said:

Joe Biden DID strong arm the Ukraine government for his own benefit, bragged about it publically and the gutless punks in the democrat party ignored it.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/1/20891510/hunter-biden-burisma-ukraine-shokin

Keep making things up and acting like you know what you're talking about. Viktor Shokin, the Prosecutor General in Ukraine, was accused of not being tough enough in fighting systemic corruption in the country. Western allies of Ukraine, including the Obama Administration at the time, wanted Shokin removed and a new Prosecutor General, who would be tougher on anti-corruption measures, installed in as Prosecutor General. Shokin was accused of not moving fast enough into corruption and bribery investigations around Zlochevsky and Burisma. The US DOJ and Obama Administration were considering bringing charges against Burisma themselves. So when Biden delivered the message that the US and other western allies wanted Shokin gone as Prosecutor General, that wasn't exactly a message that would have helped Hunter out.

Of course you ignore all that and continue to defend Grifter in Chief Donald Trump who himself and with the assistance of those in his personal network solicited foreign agents and other governments to stay at and utilize Trump properties. You ignore the fact that White House Aid and Daughter to the President Ivanka Trump was seeking trademarks for her clothing and shoe line from the Chinese government while her father, the President of the United States, was negotiating with the Chinese government.

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18 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/1/20891510/hunter-biden-burisma-ukraine-shokin

Keep making things up and acting like you know what you're talking about. Viktor Shokin, the Prosecutor General in Ukraine, was accused of not being tough enough in fighting systemic corruption in the country. Western allies of Ukraine, including the Obama Administration at the time, wanted Shokin removed and a new Prosecutor General, who would be tougher on anti-corruption measures, installed in as Prosecutor General. Shokin was accused of not moving fast enough into corruption and bribery investigations around Zlochevsky and Burisma. The US DOJ and Obama Administration were considering bringing charges against Burisma themselves. So when Biden delivered the message that the US and other western allies wanted Shokin gone as Prosecutor General, that wasn't exactly a message that would have helped Hunter out.

Of course you ignore all that and continue to defend Grifter in Chief Donald Trump who himself and with the assistance of those in his personal network solicited foreign agents and other governments to stay at and utilize Trump properties. You ignore the fact that White House Aid and Daughter to the President Ivanka Trump was seeking trademarks for her clothing and shoe line from the Chinese government while her father, the President of the United States, was negotiating with the Chinese government.

I'll stick by what I said.  However, even you mention Burisma and corruption.  Yes  that was the company that employed Joe's boy and overpaid him for job he wasn't qualified for.  

Now if you want to talk about the Chinese, how about we start with all Biden connections. Biden, his family and many people in his administration have ties to China. 

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12 minutes ago, Archie said:

I'll stick by what I said.  However, even you mention Burisma and corruption.  Yes  that was the company that employed Joe's boy and overpaid him for job he wasn't qualified for.  

Now if you want to talk about the Chinese, how about we start with all Biden connections. Biden, his family and many people in his administration have ties to China. 

The Biden/Ukraine thing was easily debunked years ago, but you’ll continue to believe what you want to believe. 

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12 minutes ago, Archie said:

I'll stick by what I said.  However, even you mention Burisma and corruption.  Yes  that was the company that employed Joe's boy and overpaid him for job he wasn't qualified for.  

Now if you want to talk about the Chinese, how about we start with all Biden connections. Biden, his family and many people in his administration have ties to China. 

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You provided no counter points or fact to any of what I brought up, didn't bother supporting your point with anything other than your conjecture in the first place, and then brought up another point about Biden and China while offering no facts and again ignoring the provable facts I point out. Keep standing by that conjecture though.

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14 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/1/20891510/hunter-biden-burisma-ukraine-shokin

Keep making things up and acting like you know what you're talking about. Viktor Shokin, the Prosecutor General in Ukraine, was accused of not being tough enough in fighting systemic corruption in the country. Western allies of Ukraine, including the Obama Administration at the time, wanted Shokin removed and a new Prosecutor General, who would be tougher on anti-corruption measures, installed in as Prosecutor General. Shokin was accused of not moving fast enough into corruption and bribery investigations around Zlochevsky and Burisma. The US DOJ and Obama Administration were considering bringing charges against Burisma themselves. So when Biden delivered the message that the US and other western allies wanted Shokin gone as Prosecutor General, that wasn't exactly a message that would have helped Hunter out.

Of course you ignore all that and continue to defend Grifter in Chief Donald Trump who himself and with the assistance of those in his personal network solicited foreign agents and other governments to stay at and utilize Trump properties. You ignore the fact that White House Aid and Daughter to the President Ivanka Trump was seeking trademarks for her clothing and shoe line from the Chinese government while her father, the President of the United States, was negotiating with the Chinese government.

The Biden's involvement in China is no secret except you won't find out from his liberal media. In all fairness the right wing media doesn't post the negative articles about their people either.   I don't have time to search and post all the links out there. You can do that yourself if you want to know.  Or as some say, ignorance is bliss.  You can stay uninformed and live in the liberal fantasy world believing Biden isn't as corrupt as any other long time politician, he's working for the American people and he's got all his marbles.

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Various reports, including ultra liberal CNN says Zelensky is unhappy with Biden for saying an invasion is certain and Putin says Biden is blowing it out of proportion. 

Sounds like Biden wants the situation to be worse than it is. That way when there is no invasion Joey will be beating his chest taking credit for solving the problem when he didn't do anything.  Time will tell.

 

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BTW, if anyone wants to see how much the alt-reich dislikes Victoria Nuland do a google of "Victoria Nuland rape" and you will see that the top search return is a Daily Sturmer  piece about "Criminal Jew family of Jewish Criminal Victoria Nuland" which is likely going to not win a Pulitzer this year. 

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17 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/1/20891510/hunter-biden-burisma-ukraine-shokin

So when Biden delivered the message that the US and other western allies wanted Shokin gone as Prosecutor General, that wasn't exactly a message that would have helped Hunter out.

Everything you said up until this statement was correct, with the caveat that it wasn't just Burisma.  Shokin was doing this to everyone he could, Burisma was just one of the many.  

The message the US and other western allies sent was not an issue, who sent it was.  Biden had no business being involved.   

I'm not sure what you do for a living, but today you arrive to work to learn your boss, who you know hasn't been the most ethical person, has just been fired and you're given his position.  They tell you that you're trustworthy and they installed you to change the culture.  Soon after, you learn a vendor was tired of dealing with your boss which soured that relationship, a VP from that vendor basically told your CEO that it's your old boss or them and your CEO chose them.  Oh, by the way, that VP's son works for one of the groups you oversee and is one of groups which led to your old boss being fired.   Maybe you don't care and would march right down to the group and tell them it's time to shape up or ship out, but that situation, forced upon you from an outside force, could definitely change the outcome of how others deal with it.  

17 hours ago, Archie said:

Now if you want to talk about the Chinese, how about we start with all Biden connections. Biden, his family and many people in his administration have ties to China. 

Hey now, what's your proof that Joe Biden was 'the big guy' that Hunter referred to?  Just because he regularly calls him that doesn't mean that's what he meant here.  It was probably Shaq, he's big.  That a much more logical jump.

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3 hours ago, Archie said:

The Biden's involvement in China is no secret except you won't find out from his liberal media. In all fairness the right wing media doesn't post the negative articles about their people either.   I don't have time to search and post all the links out there. You can do that yourself if you want to know.  Or as some say, ignorance is bliss.  You can stay uninformed and live in the liberal fantasy world believing Biden isn't as corrupt as any other long time politician, he's working for the American people and he's got all his marbles.

Generally when you make claims like this, the onus is not on the others to others to back up and fact check. No one is going to take any of this seriously, and instead it just comes across as a Tucker Carlson fever dream. 

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On 1/27/2022 at 6:12 AM, Archie said:

Why don't you go over there and fight then. Better yet send the wife and kids too.  Why is it ok for others to shed their blood for your political gain? 

If the US gets involved we will look stupid.  We have a failed and incompetent Commander in Chief that's extremely weak and the world knows this.  US involvement will lead to much bigger and worse things. 

Thank god I don’t have to turn on Faux News or Overthrow America Network or NewsHax to get this kind of analysis.

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