KL2 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Or maybe it's a lot of ammo for the Lions to trade back. It would be tempting given the amount of holes on the team. Not surprised you're a trade back guy. The team that moves back almost always loses the deal as picks after 30 rarely amount to anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 56 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Washington seems traumatized from the RGIII debacle. They went all in and it failed and instead they recycle QBs like Alex Smith and Carson Wentz. It cause they keep trying to win now and win meaningless games instead of rebuilding with a qb Basically your plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, KL2 said: Not surprised you're a trade back guy. The team that moves back almost always loses the deal as picks after 30 rarely amount to anything So liar, where is the post did I say trade back after 30? Multiple teams have multiple 1st round picks higher than. Not surprised you're the guy that infers something that was never said. Do better an apologize for being a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, KL2 said: It cause they keep trying to win now and win meaningless games instead of rebuilding with a qb Basically your plan I've stated in this thread I would draft a QB. Once again you're nothing but a pathetic liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Is CJ Stroud the answer? I do not know...people tend to think OSU QB's are trash...but the thought that about Oreon QB's until Justin Herbert came along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said: As of 10/25/2022, I would rather the Lions draft Will Anderson than ... CJ Stroud ... I would NOT rather the Lions draft Will Anderson than CJ Stroud. However... I'm going to guess that we are just not going to be in a position to get Stroud. So... I think by default, we're going to be hoping that Will Anderson or Jalen Carter falls to us for our first pick. The second 1st rounder from the Rams could be open to all sorts of possibilities... athletic sideline-to-sideline LB'er, another CB to pair with Okudah, any QB that might be available here that the team believes can take over as starter... Maybe RB but I'd rather they wait until the 2/3/4th before trying to find some RB depth. I think the other 4 spots rank higher in need: QB, DL, LB, CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: Is CJ Stroud the answer? I do not know...people tend to think OSU QB's are trash...but the thought that about Oreon QB's until Justin Herbert came along. Didn't there used to be a thing about Jeff Tedford QBs which caused Aaron Rodgers to slide in the draft? Is there even a school known for producing NFL QBs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 There was a point where Scott Mitchell was really clicking. We thought we had our guy. It certainly helped to have Barry, Hermann, Brett and Johnnie..........he was great, 32 TDs to 12 ints. Then something happened and it was like a switch got turned off and he was horrible. Didn't he take a really hard hit and then played scared? Seems like something might have happened in the New England game because it is night and day with his play now compared to the first 4 weeks. Did he get popped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Even if there was no critical "pop" or "hit".... He still can't go deep with accuracy, won't go deep often enough, is not pocket-aware, takes unnecessary sacks, throws too many INT's and has too many fumbles. He cracks under pressure. And has no ability to "improvise" or "create something"... He's proven to me, Detroit, and the Lions coaches and FO I believe, what his weaknesses are. He can QB a team. He can "game manage" an offense. But he is Carson Wentz/ Ryan Tannehill/ Andy Dalton... Decent enough guys but not the QB that will just put a team on his back and drive the team to wins... I think his QBR is telling... roughly about 50 for his career. On a par with the 3 guys I mentioned above. These guys can win games.. but the team has to carry them, not the other way around. Stafford has a career QBR of 55-60 (I don't see a career #, that's a WAG...). He carried teams. But didn't have good enough teams around him to get anywhere. He did need some manner of support... Rams proved that out last year. I want to build the absolute best team out there, and put the best QB we can find in the lead... might be hard to do but... IMO we have to find better than Goff... he's proven that to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Even if there was no critical "pop" or "hit".... He still can't go deep with accuracy, won't go deep often enough, is not pocket-aware, takes unnecessary sacks, throws too many INT's and has too many fumbles. He cracks under pressure. And has no ability to "improvise" or "create something"... He's proven to me, Detroit, and the Lions coaches and FO I believe, what his weaknesses are. He can QB a team. He can "game manage" an offense. But he is Carson Wentz/ Ryan Tannehill/ Andy Dalton... Decent enough guys but not the QB that will just put a team on his back and drive the team to wins... I think his QBR is telling... roughly about 50 for his career. On a par with the 3 guys I mentioned above. These guys can win games.. but the team has to carry them, not the other way around. Stafford has a career QBR of 55-60 (I don't see a career #, that's a WAG...). He carried teams. But didn't have good enough teams around him to get anywhere. He did need some manner of support... Rams proved that out last year. I want to build the absolute best team out there, and put the best QB we can find in the lead... might be hard to do but... IMO we have to find better than Goff... he's proven that to me. Mac Jones might be available........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: I would NOT rather the Lions draft Will Anderson than CJ Stroud. It's quite possible that by April I agree with you. As it stands today, my ideal first round would let us pick up Anderson and Levis. That's certainly subject to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said: It's quite possible that by April I agree with you. As it stands today, my ideal first round would let us pick up Anderson and Levis. That's certainly subject to change. anderson and levis may go 3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, buddha said: anderson and levis may go 3-4. A lot can and will change before April, which is why I’m hesitant to discuss draft before even half the season is over. With all the talk that an 8-9 NFC team could make the playoffs, what if the Lions go 7-4, and… ok I’ll stop. (This was a joke please no one come after my family). If we are entertaining draft talk though, I think anything reasonable could be considered. I won’t tell you we should pick up Stroud in the 2nd round. I think it’s reasonable though that Anderson could be there at the top of the draft for the Lions pick and Levis still there around Mahomes/Fields territory (10ish), at which point I would strongly consider moving up with the Rams pick. Which I’m sure would trigger all sorts of talk about how we must not be confident he’s QB1 if he wasn’t even our first pick…. But I think Anderson may be the closest you’ll get to a sure-fire All Pro in any draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said: A lot can and will change before April, which is why I’m hesitant to discuss draft before even half the season is over. With all the talk that an 8-9 NFC team could make the playoffs, what if the Lions go 7-4, and… ok I’ll stop. (This was a joke please no one come after my family). If we are entertaining draft talk though, I think anything reasonable could be considered. I won’t tell you we should pick up Stroud in the 2nd round. I think it’s reasonable though that Anderson could be there at the top of the draft for the Lions pick and Levis still there around Mahomes/Fields territory (10ish), at which point I would strongly consider moving up with the Rams pick. Which I’m sure would trigger all sorts of talk about how we must not be confident he’s QB1 if he wasn’t even our first pick…. But I think Anderson may be the closest you’ll get to a sure-fire All Pro in any draft. i still think a very likely scenario has the lions picking in the 5-7 range and using that pick, the rams pick, and future first round picks to move up a few spots to take a qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I have watched Will Anderson all year, and he's not doing much this year. He's not showing his usual explosion. Last year he had 57 solo tackles, and 17.5 sacks; this year he has 16 solo, and 6 sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said: I have watched Will Anderson all year, and he's not doing much this year. He's not showing his usual explosion. Last year he had 57 solo tackles, and 17.5 sacks; this year he has 16 solo, and 6 sacks. Was thinking the same thing even though it hasn’t been talked about quite as much. He’s not playing poorly but just not up to expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Was thinking the same thing even though it hasn’t been talked about quite as much. He’s not playing poorly but just not up to expectations. When I have watched him, especially against Tennessee, he's been handled by one guy each time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Hendon Hooker is going to be 25 next year..that's pretty old for a rookie QB. Might lead to him being available with the Rams pick. Go defense with top pick ( or trade back into5-10 range) take Hooker with the Rams pick and BPA at the top of round 2. I would love to see Blake Corum in a Lions uni... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Shinzaki said: Hendon Hooker is going to be 25 next year..that's pretty old for a rookie QB. Might lead to him being available with the Rams pick. Go defense with top pick ( or trade back into5-10 range) take Hooker with the Rams pick and BPA at the top of round 2. I would love to see Blake Corum in a Lions uni... I’m cool with this just because I want a Lions Hooker jersey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhutch Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 22 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: After ragging on Stafford for the last 3-4 years he was here, only to have him prove me wrong the first year he left Detroit, I really wanted to give Goff a chance. But Goff looks lost and completely out of it in game. He played like the bum the last two weeks in a row and showed all of his worst traits from fumbling to throwing the ball in coverage and getting picked to refusing to step up in the pocket and taking a sack as a result. Goff has showed us enough that I think it is becoming safe to feel like he isn't the answer for us long term at QB. I don't think we can afford to pass up on a potential franchise QB in a league dominated by offensive production. If we do, and draft Will Anderson instead, then I worry we'll be the Washington Commanders 2.0. That is a team with a stacked defensive line and a bum at QB, always searching for his replacement. It's been pretty much what he was before - He looks good when the Lions are running the ball well & his first-string RB is in the game. When they're not running the ball well, the defenses change & he's deer-in-the-headlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Shinzaki said: Hendon Hooker is going to be 25 next year..that's pretty old for a rookie QB. Might lead to him being available with the Rams pick. Go defense with top pick ( or trade back into5-10 range) take Hooker with the Rams pick and BPA at the top of round 2. I would love to see Blake Corum in a Lions uni... I think Levis will be the #1 rated QB, he does have the most tools imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhutch Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 6 hours ago, Shinzaki said: Hendon Hooker is going to be 25 next year..that's pretty old for a rookie QB. Might lead to him being available with the Rams pick. Go defense with top pick ( or trade back into5-10 range) take Hooker with the Rams pick and BPA at the top of round 2. I would love to see Blake Corum in a Lions uni... I've been thinking Corum too. I love what Swift brings, but this is the 2nd year in a row he's missed significant time. I believe Corum has the body type & strength to succeed & stay healthy in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 The last franchise quarterback the Lions drafted yielded three wild card losses and nine playoff misses in his 12 years here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buddha Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 a lot of those receivers are open for bryce young because he bought enough time with his legs to get them open. bryce young has been a magician this year. bama probably has 3 losses if not for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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