gehringer_2 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said: What is your Avatar? serious question or am I missing something obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Jason_R said: Not watching the game, but was watching the score. I see Chiarot and Seider are both -3 for the game, and Seider has not been the same player this year as last. At what point does the coaching staff admit the pairing is not working? The defensive failings tonight were mostly forwards not pursuing in their own end, not the D men. Seider did make a blind clearing attempt that led to the 2nd Coyote goal, but otherwise played a strong game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: The defensive failings tonight were mostly forwards not pursuing in their own end, not the D men. Seider did make a blind clearing attempt that led to the 2nd Coyote goal, but otherwise played a strong game. I'm still jonesing for Edvinsson to make it up here to Detroit and to get paired up with Seider... Actually... I don't think that happens this season... maybe next year in 2023-24... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: serious question or am I missing something obvious? No, No, it's like something I think I remember but I can't remember and it's frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: No, No, it's like something I think I remember but I can't remember and it's frustrating. Harry Nilsson, the Point, 1970. The Rock Man - "You see what you want to see, and hear what you want to hear." That was my sig line before the forum SW changed and did away with them. The only other avatar I ever used was the Queen of Diamonds - every day that Trump was in office - in salute to the fact that he was the realization of Frankenheimer's Manchurian Candidate. Edited November 26, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 8 hours ago, lordstanley said: I think they had been separated for a bit a few games ago, no? 7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: The defensive failings tonight were mostly forwards not pursuing in their own end, not the D men. Seider did make a blind clearing attempt that led to the 2nd Coyote goal, but otherwise played a strong game. I live out of market and don't get to watch often, including last night, so I'm sure you are both right. Evaluating from afar, it seems that Yzerman's moves (esp. Husso) are paying off big, but Seider's game seems to be suffering. Maybe that's by design and he's being asked to stay at home, meaning the team is playing better defense though Seider's offensive stats are down. But I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering about the difference between this year and last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Jason_R said: Maybe that's by design and he's being asked to stay at home, meaning the team is playing better defense though Seider's offensive stats are down. But I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering about the difference between this year and last. You’re definitely not the only one wondering. It would be getting more scrutiny if the team were losing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, lordstanley said: You’re definitely not the only one wondering. It would be getting more scrutiny if the team were losing. Sophomore slump. Lidstrom "struggled" his 2nd year too. (Struggle in Lids' case was he wasn't as good at his rookie year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Jason_R said: I live out of market and don't get to watch often, including last night, so I'm sure you are both right. Evaluating from afar, it seems that Yzerman's moves (esp. Husso) are paying off big, but Seider's game seems to be suffering. Maybe that's by design and he's being asked to stay at home, meaning the team is playing better defense though Seider's offensive stats are down. But I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering about the difference between this year and last. It's partly Lalonde's system. He has them playing mostly dump and chase, which means that 5 on 5 a foward has to normally be the first player to touch the puck in the offensive zone. Hronek seems to be the only Dman with license to rotate deep in the offensive zone, the rest are mostly all staying back. Dman goals have been there but mostly on special teams and trailing D-men hopping on lose pucks in the slot. On the PP they are also playing differently - the Dmen are taking fewer long shots looking for deflections - now you have more forwards other than Larkin with the skill to manage the PP from the lower corner with less emphasis on the point (Kubalik, Perron). And maybe the other more subtle thing is that Larkin doesn't look for Sieder as being the only other competent guy on the ice with him as much as he did last season because he has Kubalik. Larkin is still by far the #1 facilitator on this team and whoever he is looking to feed is going to get points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 The PP is vastly improved with Perron running things from the half wall. You don't have nearly as many guys on the point indiscriminately blasting away at the cage in hopes of getting a deflection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I really am not a fan of these reverse retro jerseys, the black just doesn't work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Tonight will be a test. The Leafs have seemed unstoppable lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 well....that escalated quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Losing to a better team... 4-1 now in the 2nd, Toronto... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Wings were up 1-0 with a PP, didn't convert, and a few minutes later they were down 2-1. All downhill since then, although 4-1 scoreline is probably a bit harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 The Wings made a decent 3rd period push to try to get close, but fall 4-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, slothfacekilla said: I really am not a fan of these reverse retro jerseys, the black just doesn't work for me. I'm not a fan of reverse retro jerseys, period. If I go to one game a year, soak in the whole experience, take a bunch of pics, I want to see the Winged Wheel and the Olde English D, not a red and black jersey with Detroit on it or Detroit Stars replicas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Thought the Wings looked / played pretty good outside of some lapses. Husso finally faltered a bit. I thought Chiarot looked pretty bad though, I would love to get him away from Seider. Hopefully they can start getting better results against good teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, slothfacekilla said: ... I thought Chiarot looked pretty bad though, I would love to get him away from Seider.... This is what I've been thinking, but.... A) Maata has been really, really, really good for Hronek... and therefore I do not want to split this pairing up. B) So the only place for Chiarot (in my mind) is to slide him down to the 3rd pairing... which I think would greatly benefit whoever ends up as his partner down there... C) However, that means that Edvinsson would need to be ready to bring him up and throw him onto a Seider pairing. But... I'm guessing the Wings don't believe he's ready for that yet so... We may have to live with Chiarot paired with Seider for awhile... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Agree with your take. At this point I would even just try Oesterle with Seider. You can't break up Maata / Hronek and Wallman is too freewheeling like how Chiarot is playing right now I think. Chiarot should be the stay at home guy but he has more 5 on 5 shots than Seider does 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 That may have worked for him in the past but I am guessing he no longer has the speed to carry that successfully... And that would be the problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, slothfacekilla said: Agree with your take. At this point I would even just try Oesterle with Seider. You can't break up Maata / Hronek and Wallman is too freewheeling like how Chiarot is playing right now I think. Chiarot should be the stay at home guy but he has more 5 on 5 shots than Seider does 😕 Oesterle should be fine, he's been better so far this season than last I think, but then again, I'm not really worried about Seider at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Oesterle should be fine, he's been better so far this season than last I think, but then again, I'm not really worried about Seider at all. No (meaning: I think you're right... no need to worry about Seider)... But I'd rather give him a good pairing that boosts him up rather than a crappy pairing that is dragging him down... Edited November 29, 2022 by 1984Echoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Come on Ned. He's been awful. Two bad goals tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Come on Ned. He's been awful. Two bad goals tonight. I don't think the first goal was terrible... it was close to point blank and the defense was beat on the short-handed as much as anything... But that second goal... so weak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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