MichiganCardinal Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 vs. Setting: 12/04/2022 1:00pm EST on FOX Site: Ford Field in Detroit, MI Weather: Climate Controlled Opening Spread: Lions -1 All-Time Series Record: Lions lead, 4-3 Last Meeting: 10/18/2020, Lions won 34-16 Jacksonville Jaguars (4-7) Head Coach: Doug Pederson (6th Season: 46-44) Projected Starting QB: Trevor Lawrence (2nd Season: 7-21) Last Week: 28-27 W v. Baltimore Ravens (7-4) Looking Ahead to Week #14: Sunday @ Tennessee Titans (7-4) Your Detroit Lions (4-7) Head Coach: Dan Campbell (2nd Season: 7-20-1) Projected Starting QB: Jared Goff (7th Season: 49-44-1) Last Week: 28-25 L v. Buffalo Bills (8-3) Looking Ahead to Week #14: Sunday v. Minnesota Vikings (9-2) Elsewhere in the NFL Primetime: Bills @ Patriots (TNF), Colts @ Cowboys (SNF), Saints @ Buccaneers (MNF) 1:00pm: Steelers @ Falcons, Broncos @ Ravens, Packers @ Bears, Browns @ Texans, Jets @ Vikings, Commanders @ Giants, Titans @ Eagles 4:05/4:25pm: Seahawks @ Rams, Dolphins @ 49ers, Chiefs @ Bengals, Chargers @ Raiders BYE: Arizona Cardinals, Carolina Panthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhutch Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Jags are much improved as well, but Hutch showed off against Thibs a couple of weeks ago. It would be nice to see a repeat against Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Marv and Agnew scored big 4th quarter TDs in their week last week against Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MichiganCardinal Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 I know Jacksonville's fan base is lacking in volume, but I wonder what their thoughts on Lawrence are. Most QBs don't get to go 7-21+ to start their career and still have a very lengthy rope entering their 3rd year. I know he was touted as a "generational prospect", but his stats haven't been all that, even if you consider the Urban year a wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Josh Allen was worse (not from a W-L perspective) through his first two seasons. I think I've seen enough from Lawrence to go into a 3rd year with him. I think after year 3 is when you start to question Lawrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Then again, look at Tua - seems to have suddenly blossomed into the guy there was no sign of in his 1st couple of years. It's funny, the position is probably more demanding and complex than ever, but the conventional wisdom about how long it takes a QB to get fully up to league speed has gone pretty much the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 tua is a system qb with a smart head coach. lawrence has an amazing arm but isnt surrounded by the same system tua is. lawrence will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 I read something yesterday that said that Mike McDaniel ripped up hundreds of plays for Tua and completely simplified and tailored everything he could to maximize his abilities. Between that and having two speedsters that can create seperation and are major YAC guys in Hill and Waddle and it's easy to see how he is having the success he has had this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Tua is a good example that you don't need a big arm QB to utilize speedy receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 21 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said: I know Jacksonville's fan base is lacking in volume, but I wonder what their thoughts on Lawrence are. Most QBs don't get to go 7-21+ to start their career and still have a very lengthy rope entering their 3rd year. I know he was touted as a "generational prospect", but his stats haven't been all that, even if you consider the Urban year a wash. Outside of a rough patch in the middle of the season, he's had a really good year actually surprisingly under the radar considering how much hype he had coming in to the NFL. He just has the look of a QB ready to turn the corner, similar to Peyton Manning in his 2nd year. I'm still buying full stock on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.TaterSalad Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 One of the biggest reasons of them all that Tua is successful is because he is on a rookie contract and they are able to go out and get a Tyreek Hill. That rookie contract is what allowed them to restructure and resign Hill and will allow the Dolphins to absorb the coming $31 million cap hit from Tyreek Hill next season. If the Dolphins have to pay Tua a big money contract, which they likely will, their cap flexibility is likely going to go down. Tua is the benefactor of good offensive coaching/playcalling with Mike McDaniel, having Hill and Waddle to throw to, and his own rookie contract that allows Tyreek Hill to be traded for in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shinzaki Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 11/29/2022 at 8:54 PM, Motown Bombers said: Tua is a good example that you don't need a big arm QB to utilize speedy receivers. And our DB's showed...it's helpful if the DB's just let you run past them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tigeraholic1 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Why do my thoughts go directly to Zion Williamson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Remember, Pleasant was just the scapegoat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Lions are 3-1 during this stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 they played well against buffalo, but daniel jones threw for 350 against them. the bears dont count cause fields doesnt throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 is okudah back this week? that would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Daniel Jones also threw 2 INTs and had a 74 QB rating against the Lions. That 74 QB rating was the fourth lowest of the season for Jones, the 61.4 completion percentage was the third lowest, and he came into the game having thrown 2 INTs the entire season. He also attempted a season high 44 pass attempts against the Lions so he did rack up some yards late. It's ok to admit the Lions played well. Edited December 2, 2022 by Motown Bombers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Aaron Rodgers had a 53 completion percentage, 3 INTs, and the lowest QB rating of the season against the Lions. He did throw for 291 yards which is a season high. I seem to recall when Stafford did that it was called stat padding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Patriots already lost. Packers are 4-8. This weekend is already good for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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