Motor City Sonics Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: I was referencing a national TV audience. Who cares about them. Its their biggest weakness outside of their love of Satan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 44 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: I believe now. So experience tells me that this is the point where they crush my heart like a grape, they'll squeeze it until it turns into wine and they'll drink it down while laughing maniacally Hey, they've made it fun, interesting and exciting, they compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhutch Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 14 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: Considering Wright had a big drop earlier this is especially awesome! That was beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Hopefully he's back in time for the Giants and Dallas and Minnesota made up some ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Lions run defense has really gone under the radar. Jets had 22 carries for 50 yards. Their longest run was 6 yards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I was thinking about the debate we all had on the old forum prior to last season about how many players on the Lions would start on the other teams, I think the cutoff was 20 teams and I believe we only came up with 3 unamious choices in Hock, Decker. Ragnow. What would that number look like now only a year and a half later? I think on offense atleast 4 of the Oline, St. Brown, possibly Swift and/or Williams and Goff. So you're talking 6 to 8 guys. On defense its a little trickier but I think Hutch, McNeil,Okudah for sure with about 3-5 more guys as possibilities. So we essentially went from 3 to 5 plus starters to about 13 to 15 in a little over a year. Part of that was Holmes acquisitions others were guys growing under the coaching staff here but either way that is a remarkable turnaround. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) The Lions success has gotten in the way of my annual Tiger off-season anxiety. 😅😅 Edited December 19, 2022 by Sports_Freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: I was thinking about the debate we all had on the old forum prior to last season about how many players on the Lions would start on the other teams, I think the cutoff was 20 teams and I believe we only came up with 3 unamious choices in Hock, Decker. Ragnow. What would that number look like now only a year and a half later? I think on offense atleast 4 of the Oline, St. Brown, possibly Swift and/or Williams and Goff. So you're talking 6 to 8 guys. On defense its a little trickier but I think Hutch, McNeil,Okudah for sure with about 3-5 more guys as possibilities. So we essentially went from 3 to 5 plus starters to about 13 to 15 in a little over a year. Part of that was Holmes acquisitions others were guys growing under the coaching staff here but either way that is a remarkable turnaround. goff? who would goff start for in this league? no: packers, bears, vikings, eagles cowboys, bucs, rams, cardinals, bills, dolphins, bengals, ravens, browns, jaguars, chiefs, chargers, and broncos. to me, the lions starters on 20 other teams are sewell, decker, ragnow, jackson, st. brown, swift. and that's it. hutch might be a starter because of draft position but not production. no lions secondary member starts for 20 teams in the league. okudah MAYBE. nobody else is close. mcneill? i dont know enough about dt production to say. so maybe? i think ben johnson would be an upgrade to OC for more than 20 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, buddha said: goff? who would goff start for in this league? no: packers, bears, vikings, eagles cowboys, bucs, rams, cardinals, bills, dolphins, bengals, ravens, browns, jaguars, chiefs, chargers, and broncos. to me, the lions starters on 20 other teams are sewell, decker, ragnow, jackson, st. brown, swift. and that's it. hutch might be a starter because of draft position but not production. no lions secondary member starts for 20 teams in the league. okudah MAYBE. nobody else is close. mcneill? i dont know enough about dt production to say. so maybe? i think ben johnson would be an upgrade to OC for more than 20 teams. Yeah I had a brain fart when I posted that, I was thinking 20 teams they wouldn't start for or essentially 12 teams that they would start for not 20 teams. Edited December 20, 2022 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, RandyMarsh said: Yeah I had a brain fart when I posted that, I was thinking top 20 or essentially 12 teams that they would start for not 20 teams. i think your overall point was valid. the lions have upgraded their talent. more imoortantly, they greatly uograded their management talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 6:38 PM, Motown Bombers said: They get at least two. They even got one after they traded Stafford. On 12/18/2022 at 6:42 PM, buddha said: if the lions get a mnf game, its because they are matched against a popular team like the packers or bears or pats. like i said, they have the afc west next year so they have a shot because teams like the chiefs, raiders, and broncos are national teams. The Packers won't be a big draw without Rodgers. A 3 win team. And him and Brady look very washed up, very weak arms. Age catches up to us all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Sam Darnold is awful, this should be a win for the Lions. I know in the NFL that games are close all the time and upsets happen. But losing to Sam Darnold is not one I think happens. This isn't MNF against the Jets with Patricia as Coach where we make Darnold look like Joe Montana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 49 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Sam Darnold is awful, this should be a win for the Lions. I know in the NFL that games are close all the time and upsets happen. But losing to Sam Darnold is not one I think happens. This isn't MNF against the Jets with Patricia as Coach where we make Darnold look like Joe Montana. so is zach wilson and he just passed for 300 yards and left a ton of plays on the field. i'm a bit worried about the lions secondary again. they looked awful against the jets. can we re-hire aubrey pleasant again so dan campbell can fire him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 otoh, the lions run defense has been outstanding lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) Walk through Edited December 20, 2022 by Tigeraholic1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, buddha said: so is zach wilson and he just passed for 300 yards and left a ton of plays on the field. i'm a bit worried about the lions secondary again. they looked awful against the jets. can we re-hire aubrey pleasant again so dan campbell can fire him? I thought Darnold's numbers would look worse than Wilson's but when I looked them up he has an even higher QBR at 47% to Wilson's 42%. The one thing Wilson has to rely on though is a top 5 defense and Darnold does not. So we, Goff, should perform better against a worse Panthers defense and give Daronld less of a cushion to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Walk through C/G prospect is a draft need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sagnam Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Lions rookie James Houston can become first player ever with sacks in his first five games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Player Position Injury Tuesday* Wednesday Thursday Game Status Kayode Awosika G ankle NP NP Jason Cabinda FB illness NP NP DeShon Elliott S shoulder NP NP Matt Nelson T not injury related not listed NP Frank Ragnow C foot NP NP Derrick Barnes LB knee LP LP Evan Brown C/G ankle LP LP Taylor Decker T elbow LP LP Michael Brockers DL illness FP FP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Ragnow the only Lion selected to the Pro Bowl. St. Brown completely robbed as Lamb and McLaurin chosen ahead of him. Ex-Lions Slay, Diggs, and Hock all make the NFC team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 Worrying to see Ragnow's foot re-appear yet again on that injury report. We are already so short of guys on the interior line. Have been since Big V went down in the preseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Those two key plays the last two weeks........the pass to Sewell and the game winning TD pass to Brock Wright were incredible play calls for the moment but they also sent a message to ever NFL team that the Lions will throw it to anyone and I think this is the week we'll see Jameson in a lot of snaps and what do you do as a defense..........double ASB? double Jameson........go ahead but Chark, Swift, Wright, Mitchell, Raymond can all burn you if you do. They'll all catch passes pretty much every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Those two key plays the last two weeks........the pass to Sewell and the game winning TD pass to Brock Wright were incredible play calls for the moment but they also sent a message to ever NFL team that the Lions will throw it to anyone and I think this is the week we'll see Jameson in a lot of snaps and what do you do as a defense..........double ASB? double Jameson........go ahead but Chark, Swift, Wright, Mitchell, Raymond can all burn you if you do. They'll all catch passes pretty much every week. I'd like to see them just get him the ball more. He'll be lethal once him and Goff get on the same page, but that is going to take time - like, probably more time than we have left in this season. A whole offseason of working together will give those two some good chemistry, and I would expect Goff to make the throw he under-threw once they both get down the timing of a practical go route like that. They don't have to wait that long to see what he can do though. Give him the ball on an end-around, or on a screen. I want to see what he can do in space. He hasn't even been tackled yet that I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 8:19 PM, Hongbit said: Ragnow the only Lion selected to the Pro Bowl. St. Brown completely robbed as Lamb and McLaurin chosen ahead of him. Ex-Lions Slay, Diggs, and Hock all make the NFC team. Yeah, he doesn't belong; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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