mtutiger Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, chasfh said: I was wondering whether and how Avila might have made this trade were he here. Since Dombrowski is on the other side, the trade might well have been made in the first place. I could see Avila sending Soto and either Klemens or Kreidler in exchange for Edmundo Sosa, Proven Major Leaguer, and a couple of flyer pitchers from down the system, perhaps someone like Jayden Astanista and … oh, I don’t know, maybe Mike Adams. OK, enough of that pointless speculation … we return you to your actual trade discussion already in progress … https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2022/11/former-tigers-exec-has-new-job-with-phillies.html David Chadd works for the Phillies now, fwiw. Wonder if there was institutional interest just on account of that Edited January 7, 2023 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 38 minutes ago, Longgone said: Both are excellent defensive players, and I wouldn't solidify anyone's ceiling based on the initial major league stats. Now re-sign Chafin. +1 Is our best defensive IF now Tork, Baez at 2B, Kriedler SS, Maton 3B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 This guy wears the tools of ignorance for a living? Dig it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Soto was seen cleaning out his locker. He kept missing the box that he was trying to throw his stuff into. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Is the trade a done deal yet...? Or not quite yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Pending physicals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Pending physicals. Hopefully Soto didn't break his ankle ten years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Three bench players but I'll take them over the Castros any day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) Its done Edited January 7, 2023 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, casimir said: Soto was seen cleaning out his locker. He kept missing the box that he was trying to throw his stuff into. Then he tried to hand stuff to the equipment guy, but he had walked off. Edited January 7, 2023 by gehringer_2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatikIEV Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Lots of good news this off season for Mud Hen fans! Go Toledo! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 So that would make the 40 man now 39, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Interesting they list Vierling as IF/OF. He started 5 games at 3B last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim Cowan Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 41 minutes ago, casimir said: This guy wears the tools of ignorance for a living? Dig it. I don't like the way he wears his hat. Get rid of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Soto in non save situations... buckle up Phillies fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 As expected, they probably still could add at 3b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, casimir said: This guy wears the tools of ignorance for a living? Dig it. He has the face of a guy who would beat the hell out of you just for the hell of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: Soto in non save situations... buckle up Phillies fans. That's going to be the big difference: Soto has got a strong net under him in Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tenacious D said: I do think this trade shows the limits of their model tbh. Maybe the Tigers receive more trade valuevalue, they seem more priced in as role players versus Soto, who has a lot more utility to a contending ball club as a piece out of the pen (preferably not as a closer). Particularly a team that believes they can unlock his potential. Put another way, I understand the trade from the Phils perspective and there's a good chance it's a win-win for both clubs. Edited January 7, 2023 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Half of the Tigers outfield pieces are CarShield veterans lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CaliforniaDreaming Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Although that inside information did NOT include Kody's correct name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, mtutiger said: ... I understand the trade from the Phils perspective and there's a good chance it's a win-win for both clubs. This is where I'm at... I think Soto works perfectly for the Phils for what they need as they have a deep BP and can use Soto correctly, without feeling stuck with him in any situation (wild? pull him out and next guy up...). The Tigers were forced to put Soto in multiple games & situations and live with the results regardless as they weren't blessed with lots of other options. One could argue for Jimenez or Lange... but that's it, and not enough to change the 2022 narrative. Phils win in getting Soto. But I think the Tigers win too as they let go a "piece of the BP", or at least what should be a piece player rather than a "required closer" and he's certainly not a "dominant" closer; and get back 3 pieces that contribute in different ways. No one who stands out as great. But the Tigers win with more positional value, playing time and other contributing factors rather than holding on to Soto. A lot of barely average or just above average players but both teams win because they both get what they want/ need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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