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it's a provisional critique. If->then.

I'm picking up good vibrations she's giving me the excitations

Is Larkin still in his prime? I hope other teams think so. Me, not so sure.

Ref it isn't fair that two of them are in the ring at the same time! I feel like @lordstanley could be the ref here?

Agree with all of this. I don't think Larkin straight up for #2 overall is asking too much. Considering the number of top 3 picks that don't end up with careers as successful as Larkin's has been, I think it's a fair valuation. Considering Larkin is still in his prime and on such a team friendly deal, this also makes it a fair valuation.

Verlander got lit up by AAA hitters. Hoping for the best, but it would suck if his return was terrible for the Tigers. JV looking like Steve Carlton at the end. Just held on for way too long. Scherzer too. Those Glory Days are long gone, fellas.

Can I tag @buddha in

Larkin had 79 points...in no universe I'm aware of was Jack Eichel a better player than Larkin is now..and Larkin has a cheap deal with five yeears to run Vegas gave up more to get a damaged Eichel than I'm asking for (regardless of how Krebs turned out, he was considered a top prospect at the time and Tuch had a 20 goal season in Vegas) Larkin is a top 2 way C with 5 consecutive 30 goal seasons...he was a key member of the National team. Misa is a prospect...the 2nd overall pick will be a prospect. You think giving up a two way star for two prospects is too much?

a friend texted me to say that Elon lost his billionaire status

Would Duren go to Milwaukee is the question. Maybe if they were offering a lot more money.

He got the #16 overall pick AND Alex Tuch who had previously had a 50+ point season. Take away Tuch from the trade and I'm sure Buffalo could have asked for a higher pick if Vegas had one to give. I presume Tuch was added in because pick #16 by itself wasn't enough.

Wow… I knew JV had given up at least a couple home runs, but I didn’t realize he’d given up four. Can’t see limiting Montero‘s contributions to this team out of sentimentality, at least in relation to Verlander.

Flaherty's walk rate is up, but he has the highest K/9 of his career.

Part of why I was so shocked by the Larkin request was it seemed like the Wings have done extremely well by him and his family. Multiple leaves for family stuff. Putting his parents/wife/kid in a suite for home games, having his wife and kid in the tunnel for Dylan to say hi to before hitting the ice, etc.

The hfboards person I referenced seems to think the Wings are going to trade Larkin and DeBrincat this summer. Faulk, Gibson and Copp at the deadline. Get a top 5 pick in the next draft. Would be quite a reset. It makes some sense but scares the crap out of me. Theoretically it would bring in a lot of assets though....judging by how people view our scouts and front office I imagine it would scare a lot of people.

I did one in Gelsenkirchen, Germany in 2006 before Poland vs Ecuador as we made our way into the stadium (I saw your post on the previous page about being Polish-American; four of my greatgrandparents were born in Poland and I made around 15 trips to Poland in the 2000s). For a country that has seen its share of defeats on and off the soccer field over the centuries, our fans sure were (over-)confident about making easy work of the South American side. Instead got smoked 2-0, oof.

Does Milwaukee want Duren? I'm not a huge fan of Brown (the person) and his contract is crazy, but a starting perimeter group of Cade, Brown, and Ausar would be insane. You'd probably have to use up all your picks/assets not to get laughed out of the room, so you're stuck with just the MLE and re-signing Tobias in order to fill out the roster. Still, that would be a heck of a "push in all your chips" move to get a second (real) All-NBA player alongside Cade.

I'll drop it since I don't want to be a downer, I really wish I had this sort of optimism in me!

Sounds like Reaves agent has been putting in a lot of work leading into free agency.

Whether conservative or liberal, the youthful ardor and earnestness for ideological purity almost always get tempered by exposure to cold hard reality.

eichel was 24 at the time of the trade and a better player than larkin. he waa also coming off experimental surgery which is why he went for aa low as he did. and he got the 16th pick in the draft in return, not the #2 pick in the draft. when was the last team that traded a top 2 pick for a 30 year old?

When they arrive in DC they make already bad drivers worse.

larkin and edvinsson for misa or #2 plus a player has been posited by some people. sharks need a top defenseman.

jesus, i thought "i" overvalued dylan larkin...

When Eichel was traded to Vegas, Buffalo got Tuch AND a first round pick back in return. I think the trade proposal with San Jose would just be Larkin straight up for the #2 overall pick. Not adding a quality NHL ready player to the deal, like an Alex Tuch, changes the asking price I would think. Thus, making our ability to get the #2 overall pick for Larkin that much more feasible.