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The Tigers had 41 pitchers who ended the year on either the Detroit or Toledo roster. 9 were on the IL at season's end. 20 have hit free agency, either through traditional means, minor league free agency, or non-tender/off-season crunch. One more was traded because of roster crunch and one more was lost to the Rule 5. 9 of those pitchers who hit free agency have been re-signed. They need depth and they straight up need to fill the rosters. They also have a packed 40 man roster, so taking fliers on major league deals forces you to put a valuable piece through waivers, so the bar there is going to be super high. Do you think they DFA'ed Malloy for fun? Going one level lower, of the 20 pitchers (including 4 injured, one on development lost) on Erie's season end roster, 8 of them hit free agency. Pena has re-signed and was among the signings that people are blindly bashing. Kuhn re-signed as well but was nabbed in the Minor League Rule 5. So you need roughly 55 or so pitchers in the top 3 levels, and you also want about 10-15 extra in spring training just to see what sticks. The Tigers if they sat idle, would have had 31 plus whoever in West Michigan was ready for AA minus anybody still out with injury. No wonder they are hitting the minor league free agent pitching market hard. No wonder they non-tendered Mattison, Little, and Darnell so they could re-sign them to sweetened deals and bypass waivers. No wonder they took four pitchers in the Minor League Rule 5 draft. They need the bodies.

Grok lol

This could have all been avoided if the officers knew how to deescalate a situation instead of scaring her to drive off by aggressively coming to her. Nothing she did deserved death.

any real officer who had multiple accusations of improper use of force in such a short period of time would be taken off the street at least until an investigation could be conducted.* but again, these arent real peace officers. theyre thugs. * (until the police union gets them reinstated no matter what happened unless it embarasses the union politically)

well....that's not ALL i said. lol. i think its true that if she had not likely panicked and followed direction, this would not have happened. if she's not parked in the middle of the road, this doesnt happen. i also think she panicked because the ICE officer was unnecessarily hostile and it scared her. again, its standard police procedure nowadays to NOT stand in front of a vehicle for this very reason. its also pretty standard now to attempt to de-escalate an emotional situation before other methods of coercion are tried. Sometimes it is impossible for the police to get people to follow direction without some use of force. i get that. in fact, i'm on the side of the police 9 times out of 10. and even if i have seen the video, i wasnt there that day and dont know everything that went on. with that said, it certainly appears that the ICE officers intentionally escalated a situation that need not have been escalated. if he goes to her and says "ma'am, i understand your position on our work. i get it. but we are going to need to proceed down this road. i need you to move so we can get through. if you do not move, i may have to arrest you." this was not a 250 pound linebacker. it was not a drugged out psychopath. this was a woman in a car. let's try talking before escalating. that's what police officers are trained to do. but these arent officers. many simply appear to be thugs with guns. that's how its been here in chicago, and that's how it seems to be in minneapolis. to pfife's earlier point, even if charges are brought, trump will pardon him immediately. because he's a federal officer acting on federal orders, federal law will govern and supersede any state law, so i dont think any state criminal action will be valid so trump's inevitable pardon will let him off.

Jameson Williams is Tykreek Hill, St Brown is Waddle, Gibbs is Achane, Goff is a much better version of Tua, and then add some pieces like Laporta, Montgomery and a possible emergence of Teslaa and he could make hay.

I think McDaniel would be a perfect fit as OC. Zac Taylor probably would have been perfecter. But McDaniel is instantly my #1 choice, over Kingsbury and Stefanski. Kingsbury is brilliant, but has worked primarily with mobile quarterbacks in an Air Raid system. I'm not sure how well it would translate, and I've probably shifted on him to being my #3 choice behind McDaniel and Stefanski. Stefanski is more of a ground-and-pound offense with heavy-set lines. He'd love Montgomery, and would love Skipper too (if he doesn't retire). His system is definitely compatible with the Lions, but it's also a little bit closer to the "three yards and a cloud of dust" philosophy of yesteryear. The Lions have a lot of speed that would need to be molded to fit that system. He's also never worked with a QB quite like Goff. And candidly, I don't love that his offense has come in dead last and second-to-last in points scored the last two years, his 5th and 6th years with the organization. I know he had basically nothing in the way of offensive talent, but you would hope that a really good OC would make something out of nothing. McDaniel though comes from the Shanahan philosophy of "let your playmakers make plays." I think he would do a masterful job with Goff, ASB, Jamo, and Gibbs. He uses pre-snap motion and play action to get guys open in space and let them do what they do best. Comparing Stefanski to McDaniel numbers-to-numbers, McDaniel was 22nd and 25th in points scored the last two years, despite not having much more talent than the Browns on that side of the ball. Back in 2023, Tagovailoa's last full season, he was 2nd in points scored. You'd still need to fix the offensive line, but I think we would see ASB put up similar numbers he has been, while Ferraris like Gibbs and Jamo have career years with prime Tyreek Hill like numbers.

under fourth amendment case law, whether an officer used unreasonable force is judged by an "objective reaaonableness" standard. in general, it is unreasonable for an officer to kill someone; however, where an officer has probable cause to believe the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force. that's the law. does it apply here? up to your interpretation. she accelerates her car directly toward the officer. that's likely enough evidence to give the officer qualified immunity for using deadly force to stop the car. i - like i think almost everyone else on this board - think ICE officers started this, exacerbated it, handled this extremely poorly, and should not have shot her. period. the officer should not have been standing in front of the car and the other officer should not have approached her in such a belligerent manner. to me, ICE caused this. 99% (the other 1% is that she shouldnt have disobeyed the officer, no matter if he was being an ass hole or not). but legally, i think the officer is probably going to be immune from prosecution or liability. my only question is concerning the subsequent shots. the car is past him. does he have reasonable cause to fire two shots into the car at that point? his argument will be that he can use deadly force to stop a fleeing person who is a reasonable threat to others, and that since she drove her car directly at him, that gives him the authority to use such force because she continues to be a threat. i dont know if that argument is a good one or not, but i suspect it likely will be. the "shoot out the tires" argument is a non-entity. you dont shoot out the tires, you ONLY use force if you think your life or the lives of others are threatened. if not, you dont pull the gun at all. you never "shoot out the tires." shoot to kill or dont shoot at all. its different than a pit manuever or putting spikes on the road (and those are constitutionally questionable at this point too).

I mean this in the nicest way possible. People who criticize minor league free agent signings are tacitly admitting their limits of baseball roster management knowledge.

It's hard to make Nico look competent, but the Hawks did it. They turned Luka into 34 year old CJ and Corey Kispert. Masterclass in asset mismanagement.

I do not bet with sports books. The house wins there, and if the house doesn't win, they cut off the people who do win. I do small pools with friends, primarily for two reasons. I can usually come out ahead there because of my sports knowledge and analytics ability. Not always. It does add some low stakes and gets friends interested in things. No more than a couple hundred bucks down in a given year, and I usually come out on top. It does get frustrating in football season when out with friends and they are so concerned about their parlay. Gambling addiction is a scourge that wrecks a lot of lives.

Quoting this great response-I no more likes available to me here today.

I find it depressing there are enough evil people in this country to populate any agency with the number killlers and abettors of killers that something like this can take place. This is rapidly becoming the same kind of morally bankrupt, ethically exhausted population that mid war Germany was and we are seeing and will keep seeing the same symptoms. What is the dynamic that turns a society from one with a strong internal sense of morality into one so cravenly willing to lie, steal and murder? What ever it is, we are in the middle of it.

Yep. They’ve done an excellent job of cowing those of us who they haven’t recruited, but it’s becoming terrifyingly clear that this isn’t going to end without an awful lot of us being prepared to put our comfort, employment, freedom, and possibly lives on the line. The choices are only going to get more stark as time goes on.

They aren't minimal. They are pervasive. It downgrades the viewing experience for me.

I will be seriously surprised if both the DetNews and DetFreePress are both still in business in 5yrs.

my initial thought is yes, however we dont know what the feds will do this time. it feels like uncharted territory, like most of this second trump administration.

He's already been doxxed. Apparently it's because of the information the administration put out about his past incident with a vehicle.

Based on my vast knowledge gained in the last 5 minutes, once the defense requests it be moved to the Federal system, a Federal judge would have to issue a ruling on whether or not the officer was afforded immunity under the supremacy clause. Based on past cases, that seems to be the overwhelming norm.

It could have been avoided if Republicans didnt vote for trump

Now THAT'S what we need to see from Wallinder! get mad! hit somebody! use your size, son! maybe there's hope for you yet?

i dont think we can say there were no better alternatives to paddack and morton. 1) it would hard to be worse; and 2) we dont know who else was ultimately available. part of me misses dombrowski and his ability to find quality mlb players for prospects. part of me also dreads the idea of dombrowski trading mcgonigle for a 37 year old closer with an 89 mph fastball because he has "experience" and knows how to "get the job done." and lets be honest, dombrowski would never have drafted mcgonigle to begin with...

Truth in that. I'm a mental health therapist, not a management person. My sarcasm is pointing to the fact that Greenberg stated early on the priority was to add pitching. I assumed that would mean looking to add from proven mlb pitchers. They added a 38 year old in decline, who should help. And brought back Finnegan, good. Flaherty chose to stay. Other than that it's non-proven mlb pitchers who have signed. Of course it doesn't hurt to take fliers on guys and hope staff can help them. It's to a point where going forward, if management states a desire to fill a need, I am going to expect that means filling with non-proven players......or perhaps older players coming off injury. There is value in those additions. But imho there should be more balance of adding proven players as well.

McDaniel is too weird. I can’t imagine he will get another HC job soon, if ever. But he could ride the mad offensive scientist wave for a while. Stefanski will get another shot because he almost made the Browns respectable despite a ridiculous amount of mismanagement.

Way to speed up the video to make it look more vicious. We live in the dumbest of times.

My Revised Tier List Ideal 1. Mike McDaniel 2. Kevin Stefanski 3. Kliff Kingsbury 4. Todd Monken Strong 5. Pete Carmichael Jr. 6. Mike Kafka 7. Brian Dabboll Okay 8. Marcus Brady 9. Nate Scheelhaase 10. David Blough 11. Davis Webb Nervous 12. Mike LaFleur 13. Internal Promotion 14. Jake Peetz Don't Like 15. Eric Bienemy 16. Declan Doyle 17. Greg Olson 18. Tommy Rees 19. Zac Robinson 20. Thomas Brown

Complaining about stuff is good for the forum. I think once the season starts, it's best to accept the roster and enjoy the season. Then start complaining again at the deadline!

More thoughts... I also think it would do McDaniel a lot of good to work with Campbell for 2-3 years before his next opportunity in a way that is not the case for Stefanski. Stefanski likely gets a gig this offseason. A quarter of the jobs in the NFL are open and there aren't that many exciting candidates. Stefanski is a two-time COTY. The [Dolphins, Falcons, Titans, Raiders...] could do a lot worse than hiring Stefanski. McDaniel's team was Charmin Soft in 2023, and it's why they were a one-and-done despite having a top-ten offense and defense. They went into Kansas City and scored 7 points in the coldest game ever played in Arrowhead. Then he nearly lost his locker room this season. I don't think he'll get another head job right away, but I could be wrong. I'm not worried about those problems permeating the Lions with adding McDaniel. Campbell is the leader of men, Holmes infuses talent that exudes that mentality, they'll be fine. But it would do McDaniel a lot of good to learn how to be a tougher, more physical, head football coach from Dan Campbell.

It’s a fine line between defending a move and supporting a move. But regardless, I think it’s important to be careful with hindsight, and it’s also important to avoid complaining about hypothetical deals that were not made. Anyway, I doubt there were May people that necessarily supported the move for Cobb, Paddack, or Morton. However, none of these moves cost them much of anything. In that regard, I think you can defend them. It’s easy to point to Cobb and the 15 million, but more than anything this illustrates to me that there isn’t a hard budget or cost cap imposed by ownership. The deadline trades further illustrate this, in view of all of the dead money taken on in these deals. With specific reference to Cobb now, this was an early signing that was clearly made to bring in a guy to compete for a 5th SP spot and provide some bulk inning beyond that. Jack Flaherty was not yet signed and was unlikely to be signed. Had Jack been under contract, I doubt Cobb or another guy like him would have been signed. This was a minor deal and they didn’t allow it to stop them from adding Flaherty. This is the defense of this move, while not necessarily supporting it. Paddack and Morton are different. I think they were mostly interested in just making it to the end of the season and they needed innings. Neither were going to pitch in the playoffs. The cost was nothing. The alternatives would not have been better. There were better pitchers available of course, but without knowing what the demand was, it’s very difficult to say with any certainty whether another deal would have been preferable. That said, I do think they expected more from paddack. I don’t think they expected more than a #5 starter, but they probably hoped he would be able to stick in the rotation. Morton was simply added to eat up some innings. So, it’s fair to say the Paddack deal was a mistake. But I also think it is defensible.

They want you finding your future spouse in the church.

Interesting, maybe only to me, but seeing this just crystallized the history of some road names out here. A common one being Boston Post Road running through several towns near me. The creation of a federal Post Office and the designation or creation of associated Post Roads connects some dots with present day road names that have survived. I'll have to dig into it a little later today to verify.

Where's all the 2nd amendment folks? The Randy Weaver/New World Order types that were prominent in the 90's. Mark Scott is dead, I know, but he had a following. I'm starting to think all their talk and fear about the feds taking over was simply bull****.

When the left er...... the right gets caught grifting err.... murdering they point the at the other side. hypocrite.

I think the injury report said hip contusion. Just a way to hide they are getting him some rest.

Dog Killer Noem will melt in hell one day.

Good for you. And your family.

What are you talking about? She was nominated at the convention in Milwaukee. It was in all the papers.

If there is a route to wining a WS by being the team to sign the most MiLB pitching, the Tigers are going to be in fantastic shape.

Always knew this dude was a simp oaf

Private equity firms are ruining...everything. They're even buying up dental practices

I think people are underselling the Giants. They have a promising young QB, an elite young receiver, a solid young running back, elite LT, a loaded defensive line, and the 5th overall pick. The Giants were the anti Bears. They lost a lot of games they were leading late. They were better than their record. Harbaugh goes to New York with Monken and brings over Schwartz to unleash that defensive line, that's a good looking team.

Note that Walz himself is NOT accused of grifting anything , he is accused of running a poorly administered program. There is an ocean of ethical distance between the two situations.

I found this part interesting: Main Street and other traditional RSNs promise teams a fixed amount per season for their TV rights, typically tens of millions for most teams. Teams carried by MLB, however, are not promised a fixed fee by the league. Instead, MLB pays them whatever their telecasts wind up bringing in, via streaming subscriptions and traditional TV distribution fees. So based on this a small market team still get small market media money from MLB. It's an interesting dynamic because there's no danger of MLB "missing payments" to teams because it's not a lump sum, it's a percentage of what MLB gets. It also incentivizes teams to have a better product because that would result in better subscriptions and more money. However that uncertainty means teams might be much more reluctant to commit big to a roster if there's not guarantee they'll get x-amount of dollars in media money. I think it also fails to recognize that big market teams will get big market media money. I still think some level of pooling of media money is necessary to balance the league.

With potential regression from Javy, McKinstry, Dingler. Maybe Dingler progresses. A lot of unknowns. I think Harris is making moves to try to win, but mostly to preserve the core future, his guys, and they'll start trickling in this season. Post Skubal there may be a drop off, but Harris is looking long term and sustainability under his system

Net rating is one of the best stats to tell how good a team is.