RandyMarsh

Roster flexibilty is fine but I'd rather have a player that fields 1 position great than guys that fields a bunch of positions average or mediocre and this doesn't even factor in the hitting aspect of it.

That's what I think as well. He's obviously completely 1 dimensional at this point and offers no versatility but looking around the league and seeing players that are rostered you would think that there would still be a place somewhere for a guy that can hit for the average that he can, even if it's only for a few games a week.

Miggy is hitting nearly .340 in his last 40 games with 13 xtra base hits, I wonder if he keeps going this way that IF he wanted to come back next year if a team would give him an MLB contract next year? Just a hypothetical cause I truly believe he is hanging them up either way but just curious cause a few months ago it would've been insane to even think of the possibility that somebody would actually want him next year.

Yeah at first I was hoping it was something that "just" effected his baseball life and not life all around, like maybe being in the batter's box just gave him major anxiety or something but now that is starting to sound like that is not the case but instead something much worse that effects his day to day life as well.

I still question how much it actually effects a team's strategy, I mean sure getting an extra pick at the end of the 1st round is nice but is the prize big enough to alter how you really want to handle things especially given that it takes the player winning the ROY just to get that pick? Like if the Tigers really wanted to see what Keith looked like and give him reps in August and September so he has big league reps under his belt so next year there won't be a learning process at the start. I'm not so sure that management would say "Well maybe we shouldn't do that cause you know we could get a pick in the 30s(which normally don't amount to much anyway) if we wait till next year to look at him AND he happens to beat out dozens of other guys for the sole rookie of the year award in our league?"

After getting his OPS to a season high .723 last week Tork is now back below .700 while being in the midst of a 2 for 24 with no extra base hits slump. I swear anytime he starts to look like he turns a corner he goes on these stretches where he just looks absolutely dreadful. I get players will have highs and lows throughout the season but boy are his lows extremely low.

I want E-Rod to stay and have us pick up a solid depth/back end guy like how we viewed Lorenzen this past offseason so my ideal rotation next year would look something like 1. Skubal 2. E-Rod 3. Mize 4. Veteran FA 5. Manning The depth pieces and/or swing men would be Olsen, Brieske, Madden, Turnbull and Faedo.

Yeah you got to feel for him, we'll never know the answer but I wonder how he would've turned out if he never got injured and didnt get saddled with the terrible coaching/culture his rookie season.

Yeah I always thought he was too and this backs it up, I think it may have been because the way he was acquired and the little fan fair that came with it and most importantly he was viewed as kinda the third guy behind Miggy and Victor who for the most part were still elite hitters during JD's time up until the last season.

We could prob find a stop gap for next year but Erod is still young enough that he should still be effective for atleast the next 3 years and since we don't have a ton of promising arms on the farm having that steady effective veteran in the rotation is something we're gonna need in the coming years so instead of going out and paying 15-20 million every year on guy(s) you hope can fill that role we could just have him for then 4 years at that same rate and not worry about it. Also even with that extension his contract wouldn't be totally out of line so we should have no problem trading him if we ever feel the need to..... assuming he wouldn't block it again.

Honestly I wouldn't be totally against adding 1/20 if I knew that would get him to opt in. He's likely not going to be as good as he was at the start of the year but he should still be a solid mid rotation guy with potential to be better for the next few years and were likely going to be in the market for somebody like that anyway.

The white Sox also threw a monkey wrench into things by saying that Cease was available only to pull him away shortly before the deadline. I could see a team targeting him and JV first and only going to Erod as a last ditch option.

Back when the Tigers were good the money I made off Opening Day tickets basically covered the cost of my weekend package.

Unless he dominates the rest of the way like he did at the start of the year I don't see how he has raised his stock much more than what we signed him for all things considered. He was so so last year, disappeared for 2 and a half months. This year he started great but then got injured and now seems to be regressing a bit. If that keeps up how much money will a team realistically give to him factoring that all in along with being 2 years older than he was when we signed him and the whole deadline stunt? I dont see many teams that will be willing to committ more than the 3 years that we are guaranteeing him.

On the surface he would be but ERod seems like a different type of dude, he may be the type where money isn't everything and he doesn't want to through the dog and pony show of free agency or start all over again with a new team and city especially since theres no guarantee that he is going to get a significant more amount of money. He may like it here and feel comfortable here and feel like he is fairly compensated so he is just content staying. With that said my gut tells me though that the Tigers will work out some deal with him where they either add years to his current deal or give him a raise before FA starts.

It makes me wonder if Baltimore may have been an option but they pivoted to Flaherty cause of the issues with Erod and the Dodgers. They may have worried that if he turned down a team like the Dodgers at the last moment he could potentially do the same to them and then they'd be left empty handed.

He's just too inconsistent to think he will ever be more than a back end starter that has the occasional great game or short stretch mixed in.

Fangraphs has him at 11 and a 40FV according to Eric Longenhagen.

In a sport like baseball and especially at a position like pitcher I'm not as concerned with them "only caring about themselves" as I would be in other sports/positions. It's not like say in basketball where if a player is like that he may hog the ball or just disrupt the overall flow of the offense or defense. In baseball even if the pitcher truly is like that him only being out for himself doesn't effect the other guys around him on the field. He just goes out there and tries to get the opposing batter out and then go back to the dugout, him not caring about the players around him doesn't really alter anything or the overall objective of the rest of the team. And this is assuming he is really like that, it's hard to not be upset with how he handled things last year but this year it seems like he is a different player and the coaches and teammates all seem to like and get along with him.

Yep, there's no doubt I'm disappointed in not trading E-Rod but without knowing what was offered it's hard to rake Harris over the coals for not trading him. Even if you don't get a draft pick at the end of the year you still don't want to just accept anything for him as there is some value having him the next two months. For starters It gives you two months of exclusive negotiating time if you do want to extend him, also you never know with ERod just cause it seems like he may opt out it's not a guarantee so you may get to keep him at a reasonable rate for the next few years.

The no trade teams are often times strategically picked by the players/agents and not necessarily teams they legit don't want to trade for. They usually pick certain teams that in the event they do get traded there they can use that no trade to leverage something extra out of the team trading for them. Like maybe extra years on their contract or giving them a bigger deal etc. to not veto the trade but in this scenario it was one of the rare times that the team was a legit team or place that the player refused to play for.

The stars are aligning for us, it would only be fitting that a station like Nickelodeon broadcasts their first Super Bowl the year the biggest joke and laughing stock in the league makes their first Super Bowl too!

Imagine how JD felt, one of the best hitters on the planet for 3 and half years at that point and all he was able to fetch was Dawel Lugo and Jose King? Of course in his head he could atleast you the idiot GM that traded him as the excuse.

With the way Lange has been pitching and just his overall inconsistencies Id be more than happy/surprised if we could even get a Christian Hernandez type even with him losing some of his luster.