RandyMarsh

If these Warriors aren't a dynasty winning 4 championships and going to 6 finals in 8 years I don't know what constitutes one.

haha I swear I was going to make a post with something like "It's not like our hitters are bad, they just pitch to us like we're Ted Williams." in reference to Inge.

lol I know some of us on here may joke about you being a negative Nancy but you call it like you see it and 9 times out 10 you have been right and the Tigers lack of producing home grown talent is proof of that.

Even though I'm starting to lean towards the get guys that already have great command regardless of stuff(to a certain degree of course) I can totally understand the approach of taking the guys with great raw stuff cause if you can fine tune them you get a Justin Verlander but if you can't you get a Riley Pint. You see it in football with QBs, teams will draft QBs with great physical tools with sketchy accuracy in hopes of the same thing, could develop a Josh Allen or it could be a Jamarcus Russell. Ditto for basketball with elite athletes with shaky jump shots.

Another thing I heard just from reading chats from the various national pundits is that some teams namely the Indians who have had a ton of good starters the last several years target guys with great command with the thought that they could potentially coach or get more stuff out of them vs. the old Tiger mindset of drafting guys with great raw stuff with no command in hopes of coaching them to develop that.

Yeah this is kinda what I was thinking just from reading between the tea leaves of some of the scouts I read and follow particularly the pitch tunneling. BTW I mentioned him in the farm thread but I was wondering what your opinion of Austin Bergner is? His numbers in AA look really good but doing quick google searches I can't find much in depth about how his stuff actually looks or if he is somebody worth monitoring or a non prospect. edit: I should say I have seen reports on him preseason but statistically he seems to have taken a step forward this year so I was wondering if there was any improvement stuff wise or projection wise over what people thought going into the season.

I'm actually hoping the Rangers get to the point where they use position players, I want to see if we can actually do anything against them.

Noted slugger Jake Cronenworth has 21 RBIs the past 2 weeks, the Tigers as a team have 22.

When the pitching was going good prior to the last couple weeks I thought may be our offensive struggles could be blamed on us just coincidentally getting really dead balls cause the opposing team wasn't exactly hitting a bunch of HRs off of us either. But I can't use that excuse anymore cause opposing teams have been putting them in the seats at a pretty good regularity the past 2 weeks meanwhile we are still struggling.

lol. Speaking of spin rates I can't remember who it was, I think it may have been Scottwood or G2 but they brought up a good point. About 5 or so years ago spin rate was what all the "smart" teams were looking for while teams like us at the time were still focused on velocity. Now in the past 2 years we start paying attention to that and chasing guys like that and it seems like teams have moved on from putting emphasis on that. I mean it's not that they don't care at all but they don't fawn over those numbers anymore cause hitters have already adjusted and are hitting the once unhittable high FB regardless of the spin. They will of course go for the guy with more spin all things else being equal but they now look at different factors when targeting guys. Of course the Tigers are late to the party on that.

By my math we are currently getting outscored 52-9 on this home stand. We've given up 9 or more runs 3 times thus far so our total output still wouldn't have been enough to win any one of those games.

He may exercise an opt out just to avoid tarnishing his record even more if he feels we're gonna be bad for awhile even if that means him sitting out a year or 2 for a job. Assuming we continue to be terrible this year and suck again next year and he gets fired he is going to have a lot harder time finding a job then. He may be able to talk teams into this year being a flukey terrible year where all the guys underperformed and we suffered through injuries but if it happens for multiple years that will be way tougher to do.

I don't think a team would specifically fire anybody for Hinch but with all the openings that come available I'm confident he could land a gig if he wanted to. There's been retreads with worse track records that got hired. Not to mention I think he could smooth talk his way through an interview and convince a team that he wasn't the problem here, that he started the winning culture in Houston which allowed them to carry it over at he left etc.

This may be extreme but with the Tigers inability to hit balls more than 300ft(the rare times they do they hit it to death valley) and the fact that the team isn't loaded with burners I think if a team brings in a position player and just lobs up 40-50mph pitches I think they could potentially throw a quality start against the Tigers if they have a decent enough defense behind them. Right now it basically takes 3 hits for them to score a run so even if they hit lasers the odds are that you're not going to continue to find a hole. You may string a few together a couple times to score 2 or 3 runs but there will be enough at'em balls to get the pitcher through the game with not too much damage.

Looking at our results and I counted that we are 22-8 in games where we give up 3 runs or less and 2-31 in games where we give up more than 3. We're 1-27 in games where we give up 5 or more. Currently the league average for runs in a little over 4 so if we give up more than the league average it has been basically an automatic loss. I'd like to know what the rest of the league's record is in regard to these splits, I'm sure it's not great when giving up 5 or more but I have to imagine it's still quite a bit better than the .035 winning percentage we're currently at.

The fact that he is still only 27 is amazing to me, a young 27 at that having just turned it at the end of April.

With the draft just over a month away I figure it's time to start a thread. The draft will start on Sunday July 17th and conclude on the 19th. It will be taking place in LA during All Star weekend. The Tigers have the 12th and 51st pick in day 1. They would've had the 72nd pick as well but we traded it for Meadows, we also lost our 3rd round pick due to the signing of E-Rod. I'll post some links to big boards and when more mocks come out we can add to it. MLB.com's ranking https://www.mlb.com/prospects/2022/draft/ Keith Law https://theathletic.com/3366251/2022/06/16/mlb-draft-prospects-kumar-rocker/ CBS https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/top-30-players-in-2022-mlb-draft-druw-jones-jackson-holliday-have-strong-bloodlines-kumar-rocker-makes-list/ fangraphs https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2022-mlb-draft/summary?sort=-1,1&type=0 ESPN https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/insider/story/_/id/33810529/kiley-mcdaniel-2022-mlb-draft-rankings-20-which-former-mlb-star-son-soars-our-top-150 Some of these rankings are a little old but are the most current they have so hopefully soon there will be some updated ones.

That could go down as one of the all time great trades if Kuminga pans out. Between that trade and the emergence of guys like Poole the Warriors basically were able to extend their window greatly. I thought it may have been shut after Durant left, Klay had the major injury, Draymond looking like he was declining and with Steph just getting older but that obviously wasn't the case. Crazy to think that they could've had Lamelo on this team too instead of Wiseman. BTW I saw a tweet that somebody dug up from pre draft that year from Jayson Tatum that said something like "Jabari(Parker) is way better than Wiggins" lol, of course Tatum was still in HS and either already committed to or was planning to commit to Duke which is where Jabari was playing but I just found that funny considering years later he faced him in the Finals.

I imagine their ping pong games go pretty quickly, these guys can't even hit a baseball so you expect them to hit a ping pong ball with any sorta consistency? They probably get a couple volleys every point and thats it.

Jack's been better this year but he still does too much "back in my day" talk for my liking which is why I don't like having a player from that generation call games. It's to the point now that the game is almost a completely different sport than it was 4 decades ago when he played so it's almost pointless to hear how he used to do things. Petry does about a good of job out of the Tigers crew of not being guilty of that, if he does do it he usually prefaces it with saying how the game is different now and some of things he did don't apply to today's game.

I'm really not in a position to say what's best for the team in terms of how they should be acting in the clubhouse but I will say that it definitely isn't a good luck to your average fan when they hear the team that they spend their money and time following is just treating everything as status quo and having a jolly good time behind the scenes despite them playing like crap. Perhaps them staying status quo and having that jolly good time is what is best for their psyche and in turn best thing for them to turn it around, I really don't know but personally I think if that is what they believe and what they are doing for P.R. reasons they should've kept that to themselves. Atleast put on the front that you guys are pissed off and are doing everything you can to try to turn it around whether that be watching more game film breaking down pitchers or whatever, the fans would rather hear that then hear you say that you guys are all loose having ping pong tournaments after getting shut out for the millionth time.

We need Riley to wear that bomb outfit from the Hurt Locker every time he comes to plate just in case.