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Let draft shake out. If team doesn't come away with a rookie they might be more willing to let you start

"I also subscribe to the Jim Leyland theory of wanting the best 25 guys for the roster"

It's one thing to take your best 25 when you have a core or some pieces to compete. It different when you suck. I'll guess Oakland best 25 player aren't all at the major league level. But doing that to watch a bunch of 19 year Olds fail, lose just as many games and lose a year of team control doesn't make sense either. It our case, despite the bounce back we still aren't great. Calling up a player weeks before the deadline doesn't make a ton of long term sense when you can just wait 20 more days and gain something more valuable long term.

Again underselling everything and it's clear your just impacted because the headlines say lions players. It's funny that you say in graph one "you can't bet on your sport." But then go on in paragraph two about how he bet on football. Again your right independently, betting on a college game has little impact on the NFL outcome. He could have gone to mgm and done that and the NFL would have likely had a talking to but no punishment. You talk about ponies and what not. And again he could have bet on that at a casino or track and again no problem. But here is where the difference start to get alarming. He went a step further. He didn't bet on ponies, he bet on football, albeit a different level, but still football. And he did it inside a team facility. You don't see how that could alarm the nfl? Where they might say ok outside not our favorite but ok, but once you start betting inside the team facility that's a little close for comfort, it worries us your just a step away from betting on nfl games or your team and doing so on our property, so we're gonna ban it? That's too close for us and too much of a risk to possibly impacting the integrity of the sport. Look at everything you wrote, independently you might live with. Problem, again, in this case they weren't. They were all mixed and the employer has decided that's a step too far and that is why it is banned. It's also why the Lions were quick to fire any staffer involved. They know the problem and those guys are more expendable. And who knows what your Black Sox comment was trying to convey. They did bet on baseball, they didn't bet on the horses. They're scandal nearly ended the sport and it's talked about a century later. No sport wants to get close to that again, but apparently you think it's cool that they do. I don't get the attitude of let's ignore this, let's pretend that didn't happen, let's say well all humans can control themselves at all time, well let's say if the scenario happened it be cool, instead of admitting what did happen. You had a player betting, betting on the same sport he played while inside a team facility probably there to do things to help better his team and not just hanging out like it's a clubhouse. That should set of big alarms not the excuse machine. A suspension of a third of a season doesn't seem over the top or unwarranted for breaking a league rule and causing a serious Black eye for the employer. (Also let's not forget to mention hundreds of players from 31 other teams have no problem following this rule and don't treat it as nbd. But cause it's a lion guy your like ah nah this is a bad rule and silly. Clearly a lot of other player have no problem not breaking it)

I agree your post was a big drop by you

I think you are unserselling, dramatically, the impact gambling and sports has. It's treated as treason because it is. Baseball almost didn't recover after 1919 because the integrity of the game was questioned. The whole sport because of the activity of 8 guys and a bad owner. One player abusing a child impacts one player and his decision negatively impacts his own team on the field. If you have a player betting on, and worse throwing games, you impact the whole sport. It's silly to just paint it as nbd, gambling is a huge deal and it's why it's still plastered as rule 1 on mlb clubhouses.

Yep but he didn't and got caught and broke the rules. Now he has to face the music. That's how rules/laws usually work. Drive 90 on the interstate in downtown get arrested. Do it in nowhere Texas and its fine.

Again the betting partners is irrelevant. Beer has long been a sponsored but you can't show up to a game drunk. Hasn't been too many fans who disagree there. The pat mcaffey thing is irrelevant cause the tech didn't exist. Now it does which is why it's outlawed in use on team facilities. My point wasn't to question u in this just the silliness of the point of the tweet and comment.

Tell us you don't know how slippery slopes work without telling us you don't know how slippery slopes work.

We're there any betting apps then?

Slippery slope. Same reason you can't start drinking at 4:50 on Friday at your desk. By having players gamble at the facility you risk creating a slippery slope. You also risk word getting out and media/public reporting on lions gamble on games during practice type headlines which would be a disaster. So its easy just to say no to everywhere that is team related.

Until a WR gets hurt or we lamented the lack of a deep passing game...

I mean it clear we just disagree here. My guess if he played for the Bears you wouldn't be making this case. The rules are no gambling. The rules extend to all team activities, why because it's a high profile job and any gambling risks the integrity of the game either by directly betting on the sport or by creating a slippery slope that makes it easier to do so. I have no problem with the suspension because he knew the rules and violated them. You are just looking for every way to rationalize it away.

Welcome to a job that is much more in the public eye than whatever you do.

They also promote beer but you can't show up to a game drunk

Same as any other workplace where it's in the workplace or a company truck.

That's true of any workplace through. There are certain rules such as don't drink on the job. Off site ok, work hours not so much.

It's a 10 game mandate I believe

It's a chance. But its risk reward. I mean he could wait but really how much mroe is he gonna get guarenteed? Better just to take your $200 million and call it a day instead of risking injury/poor preformance for an extra $20 million.

Unless he hates it here. He's made a $100 million in the bank its not like he's hurting. I could see him opting out cause he hates it, take a one year prove it deal and then hope to make it up in 2024.

Did he get hurt on his way in?

They started em last year after the NBA model. The thing is just named to highlight some different type of uniforms. Again, part to appeal to the younger gens. We saw one this year when the Astros wore their "space city" uniforms.

Yes. When is age of professional athletes not relevant?

On the other hand stats show it really doesn't matter who pitches the ninth. The conversion rate with a 2 run lead is about 95 percent.

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