1984Echoes Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Ended the season at .475 win % and tied with two others in the 11-12-13 spots. So a coinflip or whatever else breaks a tie will determine our final position. It's what we've been waiting on the past 5 years... a move to get away from those top 5 draft picks. They actually had a stronger run this year than I thought... only in the last week did their pitching stress out from being too young with a limited innings history... I thought they'd struggle the whole month of September... I guessed earlier this year that they'd fall in the top 9-12 draft spot, and they finished at the better end of that. But not only that, they made a play for .500 and finishing 2nd in the Central... until that last week. But job well done boys, so... until next year and the draft... have a great team-building offseason!!! (PS: I don't see a need to start the 2023 draft thread until just before the draft... not sometime during the 2022 season because, well, we just don't CARE about draft position any more!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 they pick 12th Orioles (52-110) Diamondbacks (52-110) Rangers (60-102) Pirates (61-101) Nationals (65-97) Marlins (67-95) Cubs (71-91) Twins (73-89) Royals (74-88) Rockies (74-87) Mets (compensatory pick for not signing Kumar Rocker, the 10th overall pick in the 2020 draft) Tigers (77-85) Angels (77-85) Mets (77-85) https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/10/2022-amateur-draft-order-established.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 Or 13th or 14th... What's the tie-breaker? Prior year winning %...? yeah ok, then we would pick 12th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 Forgot about the Mets not signing Rocker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2nd best #12 pick all-time after Nomar is Kirk Gibson in 1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Forgot about the Mets not signing Rocker... Is Rocker is back into the draft again this year since he didn't sign? I assume he would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 He can opt for the 2022 draft or sign an international contract overseas as I understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 This past draft some of the perceived top 5 or top 10 picks slid to about where we are drafting. Guys like Rocker, House, Mclain and Watson, hopefully it plays out similar this year and we can snag a top 5ish talent with our first pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Better yet would be if the new CBA might allow trading draft picks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 10 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: Better yet would be if the new CBA might allow trading draft picks ? Please no! Gimmicky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 8:54 PM, SoCalTiger said: Better yet would be if the new CBA might allow trading draft picks ? Probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 8:18 PM, RandyMarsh said: This past draft some of the perceived top 5 or top 10 picks slid to about where we are drafting. Guys like Rocker, House, Mclain and Watson, hopefully it plays out similar this year and we can snag a top 5ish talent with our first pick. We should still be able to get a quality player at #12. The baseball draft is a crapshoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 46 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: We should still be able to get a quality player at #12. The baseball draft is a crapshoot. Would we surrender if we signed Correa or anyone else with a QO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Would we surrender if we signed Correa or anyone else with a QO? Nope, they changed the rules in the last CBA where teams don't forfeit 1st round picks for signing players. If I'm understanding it correctly we would only lose our 3rd round pick. Of course with the new CBA coming I wouldn't be surprised if all that gets thrown out the window. Edited October 21, 2021 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said: ...we would only lose our 3rd round pick. I could lose a 3rd rounder for Correa... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: We should still be able to get a quality player at #12. The baseball draft is a crapshoot. Other teams can get quality players with higher picks and later rounds. We can only hope Al can figure it out with the 12th pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 15 hours ago, Archie said: Other teams can get quality players with higher picks and later rounds. We can only hope Al can figure it out with the 12th pick. I would think by now Al is relying heavily on his new scouting and analytics departments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/21/2021 at 5:02 PM, 1984Echoes said: I could lose a 3rd rounder for Correa... heck, I'd be OK with losing our 1st pick for him--would be very hard pressed to find a similar talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Correa would never sign for 3/90, but anyone who offers him more than that is out of their minds. He's only played more than 110 games in a season twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Correa likely will get a minimum of 8 years, with an opt-out after 2 or 3 seasons. I predict his annual salary will be at least $30M/yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 The Yankees will pay him 35 per, maybe 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 The top two shortstops, Correa and Seager, both have problems with durability. Both are going to get 8+ years for huge money. The next tier - Story and Semien - will be be a little cheaper (although still expensive). They have been more durable but aren't as good and Semien is over 30. I won't mind if the Tigers take chance on any of those guys, but if they are going to spend like a middle market team, the latter two make more sense. Baez scares me with his ridiculous strikeout rate. Simmons is going to be 32 next year and I would stay away from a 32 year old defensive specialist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Lindor signed a 10 year, $341M deal starting his age 28 season Correa is entering his age 27 season, with better batting numbers than Lindor. Opening bid seems to be 10/340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Correa's injuries appear to be more of the fluke variety than anything. One of the years he that he missed a bunch of games was due to torn ligaments in his thumb from a headfirst side that caught the catcher's shin guard. Another injury was a broken rib that sidelined him for 6 weeks. Granted the cause of the injury was weird(he says it was a massage gone wrong) but still its one of those fluke things that shouldnt be an injury that has any lasting effect. Other than that he missed time in 2019 due to his back which may be of concern but in the 2 years since he hasn't had any issues with it so hopefully it's behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 don't use this all at once, gotta make it last 2+months, but FG has its top 67 board for 2022 draft up https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2022-mlb-draft-rankings-and-offseason-list-primer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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