Tiger337 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 An hour wait is not easy. If it took that long for me I probably wouldn't bother most years. It takes me about 15 minutes to vote in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, buddha said: there isnt bipartisan support for the voting rights act, but i thought there was some bipartisan support for amending the electoral act? i could be wrong though, its been a while aince i heard anything about it. Granted not from the senate, but Rep Ro Khanna stated a few days ago that there are already 60 votes in the Senate for the Electoral act and it will be passed before the mid-terms. Now a voting rights act, there isn't bipartisanship on it, but I wish they would just pass some blanket law. In the name of coming together, just model the new law on New York's, that way Georgia gets more restrictive voting they even have now in the name of security, but Democrats feel good about saving democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: An hour wait is not easy. If it took that long for me I probably wouldn't bother most years. It takes me about 15 minutes to vote in person. If it's that long, there should be an honor system where you find someone in line voting the opposite of you, you handshake on it, and leave. Recent episode of Curb your Enthusiasm with this was great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 13 hours ago, buddha said: ...is like citing triple7 about the tigers. You didn't get enough credit for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, chasfh said: It can hurt Republicans only if the elections are free and fair. data says otherwise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said: You didn't get enough credit for this. i know, right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 4 hours ago, buddha said: there isnt bipartisan support for the voting rights act, but i thought there was some bipartisan support for amending the electoral act? i could be wrong though, its been a while aince i heard anything about it. No... the Electoral Act is the hot issue right now since voting rights aren't going anywhere. You've remembered correctly. We may be seeing something soon on the Electoral Act if it's not back-burnered by other pending issues (Russia, China, another push on BBB, Supreme Court nominee, etc...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 4 hours ago, buddha said: general, its very easy to vote in this country. If you’ve reached middle age and never had an episode where it took you 2+ Hrs at least once you are lucky. I’ve ended up in long lines in the Det burbs, Ann Arbor, Minneapolis. That’s the thing, its unreliable even in white suburbia. If you go to vote on a lunch hr, you never know if you are still going to get lunch. That may not make it “hard” by some definition, but it shouldn’t be the way it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: If you’ve reached middle age and never had an episode where it took you 2+ Hrs at least once you are lucky. I’ve ended up in long lines in the Det burbs, Ann Arbor, Minneapolis. That’s the thing, its unreliable even in white suburbia. If you go to vote on a lunch hr, you never know if you are still going to get lunch. That may not make it “hard” by some definition, but it shouldn’t be the way it is then volunteer to be a poll worker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Now we are complaining just to complain. We have always waited in lines, the evil repubs didn't create that. Maybe shadow repubs I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Move in-person voting to Saturday and Sunday. That'll solve a few problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, buddha said: then volunteer to be a poll worker. that might be on the list after I retire. Of course people that have to take time from work to vote in the first place can't do much volunteering either. Edited February 8, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Now we are complaining just to complain. We have always waited in lines, the evil repubs didn't create that. Maybe shadow repubs I dunno. Actually, they have. They are closing polling locations in Georgia and Texas. There is no reason to have fewer polling locations in areas where the population is increasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: that might be on the list after I retire my wife did it. she liked it. but its a long day. the real issue is that its run by state and local officials. america's issue with so many different units of authority spread out all over this vast country of ours, not every one has the same rules and abilities as others. so you get a hodge podge of different voting scenarios. i think the longest ive ever waited to vote was 15 minutes, but i go as soon as the polling place opens and its right across the street from me now. not everyone has that kind of luxury. when i was in college i took the local bus to the polling place, that's about as far as ive ever gone to vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: Actually, they have. They are closing polling locations in Georgia and Texas. There is no reason to have fewer polling locations in areas where the population is increasing. That’s a different situation than the one you were speaking to. The closing of polling locations should not happen. Waiting in a line for 2 two hours should feel more like a badge of honor, some have sacrificed so you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: The closing of polling locations should not happen. Waiting in a line for 2 two hours should feel more like a badge of honor, some have sacrificed so you can. Seriously? That’s absurd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Right? Like show some damn gratitude. Your forefathers and mothers couldn’t even vote. Be glad for what you got and shut up. The adults are talking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, smr-nj said: Seriously? That’s absurd In 2008 I waited over two hours to vote Obama (who won Indiana). There were lots of republicans crossing over. No one in line complained around me. Edited February 9, 2022 by Tigeraholic1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, oblong said: Right? Like show some damn gratitude. Your forefathers and mothers couldn’t even vote. Be glad for what you got and shut up. The adults are talking. I was speaking to the respect we should give to the election process. The conversation was going from we are losing voters rights to complaining about wait time in past elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I was speaking to the respect we should give to the election process. The conversation was going from we are losing voters rights to complaining about wait time in past elections. but in an economy where so many people live pay check to pay check in a gig economy, it's really the same thing. Voting that ends up coming at time cost is voting that comes at economic cost which is a voting right that is being fundamentally denied. The founders set elections for November when the crops were in but before winter hit hard, when gentleman farmers had nothing but time on their hands and movement was still possible. Even they clearly intended to make voting as easy as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: In 2008 I waited over two hours to vote Obama (who won Indiana). There were lots of republicans crossing over. No one in line complained around me. Well they should have. That’s ridiculous. And to say that waiting two hours somehow is a test to see if you’re grateful …. let’s just say, keep your badge of honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, smr-nj said: Well they should have. That’s ridiculous. And to say that waiting two hours somehow is a test to see if you’re grateful …. let’s just say, keep your badge of honor. No Mam, I saw men crying for their mothers as they lay dying excruciating deaths. They sacrificed more than an inconvenience of a long line. a small sacrifice to wait in line if it means so many people are able to vote freely. Sorry it offends anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: but in an economy where so many people live pay check to pay check in a gig economy, it's really the same thing. Voting that ends up coming at time cost is voting that comes at economic cost which is a voting right that is being fundamentally denied. The founders set elections for November when the crops were in but before winter hit hard, when gentleman farmers had nothing but time on their hands and movement was still possible. Even they clearly intended to make voting as easy as possible. Now you are reaching back to gentlemen farmers whatever those were. There are multiple ways to vote today that Ezekiel didn’t have access to. Edited February 9, 2022 by Tigeraholic1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: No Mam, I saw men crying for their mothers as they lay dying excruciating deaths. They sacrificed more than an inconvenience of a long line. a small sacrifice to wait in line if it means so many people are able to vote freely. Sorry it offends anyone. Well I’m sorry if I’m gonna tell you one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. It’s a false equivalency. And my father a World War II veteran, and my uncle a World War II in Korean war veteran, and my brother-in-law a Vietnam war veteran, would all call that a false equivalency also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, smr-nj said: Well I’m sorry if I’m gonna tell you one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. It’s a false equivalency. And my father a World War II veteran, and my uncle a World War II in Korean war veteran, and my brother-in-law a Vietnam war veteran, would all call that a false equivalency also. You don’t think any of them had to wait in excessive lines to vote through all that lineage? I was talking exclusively about line waiting not voting rights. Edited February 9, 2022 by Tigeraholic1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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