Edman85 Posted June 1 Posted June 1 21 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: serious question: do Sweeney, Malloy and Olson count as home grown? This is the crux of why I think "homegrown" is a pointless designation. Quote
chasfh Posted June 1 Posted June 1 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: This is the crux of why I think "homegrown" is a pointless designation. I don't necessarily think it's pointless, since it is a good indicator of how well you can develop players on the way up, but I owuld agree its importance in fielding a winner during a multi-year window is overblown at least somewhat. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 1 Author Posted June 1 1 hour ago, chasfh said: I don't necessarily think it's pointless, since it is a good indicator of how well you can develop players on the way up, but I owuld agree its importance in fielding a winner during a multi-year window is overblown at least somewhat. Agree. I like both "How many guys have you drafted that made your team" and "how many guys did you bring to the majors from the minors". I think both of those things measure important aspects of a franchise's capability to sustain itself on a reasonable budget. Quote
romad1 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 I was not tracking that Toledo was also "good" now. I thought we had good teams in the minors below them but dang...8 wins in a row and a record that is just a hair off the pace of the division lead is unexpected. Quote
Edman85 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 18 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Agree. I like both "How many guys have you drafted that made your team" and "how many guys did you bring to the majors from the minors". I think both of those things measure important aspects of a franchise's capability to sustain itself on a reasonable budget. But if you cash in your draft picks for major league production, does that mean you don't draft well? I will use Maybin and Miller as an example. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted June 2 Posted June 2 they can roll out a line up with everyone having some ML experience - Kreidler, Nido, Margot, Jones, Baddoo, Madris, Workman, Hicklen and Serven - that's a lot of AAAA talent + Lee + rehabbing guys. would be nice if most of the 5 MiLB teams made playoffs, but WMI will look at a lot different when they move people to Erie. Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Toledo W 4-0 Workman 1/3 RBI BB HR Lee 1/4 K Jung 0/3 BB K Manning 1IP 0H 0K Erie W 5-0 Anderson 2/5 2B Liranzo 1/4 RBI BB K HR Campos 2/4 BB WM W 11-3 Clark 0/5 BB McGonigle 3/4 3RBI 2BB 2B Briceno 0/3 3BB K Castillo 4IP 0H BB 2K Mattison 1IP H K Lakeland W 5-1 10 Inning Rainer 1/5 RBI K Franyerber 0/5 K Strong 1/5 2RBI K 3B Quote
RatkoVarda Posted June 2 Posted June 2 nice week+; McGonigle has 16 hits, 8 BB and 1 K in last 7 games 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 2 Author Posted June 2 (edited) 3 hours ago, Edman85 said: But if you cash in your draft picks for major league production, does that mean you don't draft well? I will use Maybin and Miller as an example. But I never like trading to get older in the first place. The way the CBA works, older players are financial death to any but the richest franchises (which we aren't) so I don't really see moving prospects on any scale as a viable long term option for the Tigers, unless you want another Dombrowski boom/bust cycle. Personally, I'm too old to be interested in another 10 years of bad baseball! You will start losing you own players fast enough that what you think is a surplus coming up today, won't be when the time comes. Edited June 2 by gehringer_2 Quote
Tenacious D Posted June 2 Posted June 2 45 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: nice week+; McGonigle has 16 hits, 8 BB and 1 K in last 7 games Meh Quote
Tenacious D Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Is Jackson Strong legit? 7th rounder. Low A, but looks promising so far. Quote
Tiger337 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 48 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: nice week+; McGonigle has 16 hits, 8 BB and 1 K in last 7 games Somebody has to say it... .600 BABIP not sustainable! 2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 2 Author Posted June 2 31 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Somebody has to say it... .600 BABIP not sustainable! but the other thing is that the kid just doesn't strike out. You get a lot more mileage out of your ABs when a third of them don't end without you hitting the ball! Quote
KL2 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: But I never like trading to get older in the first place. The way the CBA works, older players are financial death to any but the richest franchises (which we aren't) so I don't really see moving prospects on any scale as a viable long term option for the Tigers, unless you want another Dombrowski boom/bust cycle. Personally, I'm too old to be interested in another 10 years of bad baseball! You will start losing you own players fast enough that what you think is a surplus coming up today, won't be when the time comes. But that was after 10 years of very good baseball. Compare to the royals lets say who kept their guys and were bad after two. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted June 2 Posted June 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tenacious D said: Is Jackson Strong legit? 7th rounder. Low A, but looks promising so far. I think the Tigers have gotten better about identifying talent, but man, they are clearly a lot better than they were in developing talent. Edited June 2 by RatkoVarda Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted June 2 Posted June 2 1 hour ago, Tenacious D said: Is Jackson Strong legit? 7th rounder. Low A, but looks promising so far. I think he is someone to keep an eye on. He is still relatively young for a college draft pick, at 21, and won't turn 22 until August. Quote
1984Echoes Posted June 2 Posted June 2 4 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: But I never like trading to get older in the first place. The way the CBA works, older players are financial death to any but the richest franchises (which we aren't) so I don't really see moving prospects on any scale as a viable long term option for the Tigers, unless you want another Dombrowski boom/bust cycle. Personally, I'm too old to be interested in another 10 years of bad baseball! You will start losing you own players fast enough that what you think is a surplus coming up today, won't be when the time comes. If we're good at drafting and developing however... There will have to be some strategic trades of minor league depth (not our potential superstars/ top guys) for Major League depth guys that help us in September and October. Overall I agree with you. But we won't have room for everybody in Detroit either. So I am anticipating some smart trades coming soon... maybe even this year/ deadline. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted June 3 Posted June 3 (edited) 18 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Clicked on the thread and it looks like the top comment must be from his Dad. You get the feeling that he instilled in him from a young age to "play the right way" Edited June 3 by RandyMarsh 1 Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted June 3 Posted June 3 FCL GM 1 L 2-1 Warwick 0/2 BB K Jimenez 1/3 K Osorio 0/3 K FCL GM2 W 3-1 Dickson 2/4 RBI K Osorio 2/3 RBI 2SB Quote
Tigermojo Posted June 4 Posted June 4 Clark, McGonigal and Briceno are absolutely murdering baseballs right now. Parents in the crowd are covering their children's eyes. 1 1 Quote
papalawrence Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 hours ago, Tigermojo said: Clark, McGonigal and Briceno are absolutely murdering baseballs right now. Parents in the crowd are covering their children's eyes. The horror......the horror....... Quote
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