2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[Tenacious D]

On 7/6/2025 at 1:46 PM, NateCornejo4life said:

Microline, other than his defensive shortcomings, why do you believe Briceño is overrated? His stats, given his age are impressive. Just curious. 

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[Jimbo]

 

 

 

21 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

ESPN today

But Skenes is a pitcher -- and pitchers get hurt. So, if the Pirates are open to listening ...

Offer No. 1: New York Mets offer SS/CF Jett Williams (No. 20), RHP Jonah Tong (No. 50), RHP Nolan McLean, IF Ronny Mauricio, OF Carson Benge

Offer No. 2: Los Angeles Dodgers offer C/OF Dalton Rushing (No. 14), OF Josue De Paula (No. 17), IF Alex Freeland, RHP Emmet Sheehan, LHP Jackson Ferris

Offer No. 3: Detroit Tigers offer OF Max Clark (No. 8), SS Kevin McGonigle (No. 11), RHP Jackson Jobe, IF Colt Keith, RHP Sawyer Gipson-Long

The one that could get it done: Tigers.

A playoff rotation with Skenes and Tarik Skubal? Thank you very much. Reminder: The Tigers haven't won the World Series since 1984.

I saw this yesterday and laughed.  I would be fine trading one of our top prospects (I think McGonigle is the untouchable prospect) for a team controlled Skenes although they're not trading both with Keith, Jobe, and Gipson-long.  That's just ridiculous.  I like if the Tigers went for it this year on a trade that doesn't sacrifice our future.  We are not the Yankees or Dodgers where we can out spend the rest of the league.  You need to keep on drafting and developing players if you want to be good for a long period of time.  They definitely need to make a trade or two but don't need that one huge trade since they are currently the best team in baseball.  

[Tiger337]

Skenes is the second best pitcher in baseball and he's got 4 more years until free agency. I don't know if any pitcher with that much value and team control has ever been traded before, so we don't know how much he's worth.  I don't think it's ridiculous for the Pirates to expect multiple bluechip prospects in return for him.  Regardless of his value though, I would not want the Tigers to do that.  I'd rather they keep their best position prospects rather than roll the dice on one big pitching prize.  I think there is little chance of the Pirates trading him anyway.  

[Jimbo]

11 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Skenes is the second best pitcher in baseball and he's got 4 more years until free agency. I don't know if any pitcher with that much value and team control has ever been traded before, so we don't know how much he's worth.  I don't think it's ridiculous for the Pirates to expect multiple bluechip prospects in return for him.  Regardless of his value though, I would not want the Tigers to do that.  I'd rather they keep their best position prospects rather than roll the dice on one big pitching prize.  I think there is little chance of the Pirates trading him anyway.  

Oh I agree from Pirates standpoint.  I'm just happy that the Tigers didn't trade Skubal at the trade deadline last year or the previous year and really that would be the best comparison.  Who knows what offers they even received and if it was anything of substance.  Not sure why Prates would even attempt to trade him (not saying they even are, this is all just speculation).  Pirates actually have a good farm system right now so this even makes less sense from both teams standpoint.  

[RandyMarsh]

From a prospec/young talent standpoint that would be the biggest haul that I can remember.

The Marlins got two top 10 overall prospects for Miggy as did the White Sox for Sale but this is quite a bit more than that. 

You not only get 2 top 10 prospects but a guy who yes is having TJ surgery but was just ranked in the top 5 and best RH pitching prospect in baseball just 4 months ago so that is a big piece as well. 

Then the cherry on top is Keith, a 23yr old that has already hitting at a plus level and at times elite level who himself was among the best prospects in baseball just 18 months ago. Also has the added benefit of signing a team friendly extension.

Not to mention the "throw in" would be SGL who has the makings of being a serviceable back end starter.

That may be what it would take to get Skenes but no way would I make that trade for a single pitcher. Just way too much risk involved.

Edited 19 hours ago by RandyMarsh

[gehringer_2]

27 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

That may be what it would take to get Skenes but no way would I make that trade for a single pitcher. Just way too much risk involved.

Ironically, in today's game if you are going to drop a bundle,  I think a guy that has already had TJ and recovered successfully might be a better risk to keep playing over the life of a contract. 🤷‍♂️

[Tenacious D]

I think we’re giving too much credence to some ESPN slappy who is just throwing out ideas for clicks/chatter.  I suspect at least 75% of the folks in here are more qualified to put forward more thoughtful and realistic proposals.

[chasfh]

23 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

ESPN today

But Skenes is a pitcher -- and pitchers get hurt. So, if the Pirates are open to listening ...

Offer No. 1: New York Mets offer SS/CF Jett Williams (No. 20), RHP Jonah Tong (No. 50), RHP Nolan McLean, IF Ronny Mauricio, OF Carson Benge

Offer No. 2: Los Angeles Dodgers offer C/OF Dalton Rushing (No. 14), OF Josue De Paula (No. 17), IF Alex Freeland, RHP Emmet Sheehan, LHP Jackson Ferris

Offer No. 3: Detroit Tigers offer OF Max Clark (No. 8), SS Kevin McGonigle (No. 11), RHP Jackson Jobe, IF Colt Keith, RHP Sawyer Gipson-Long

The one that could get it done: Tigers.

A playoff rotation with Skenes and Tarik Skubal? Thank you very much. Reminder: The Tigers haven't won the World Series since 1984.

It's not escaping my notice that the self-proclaimed Worldwide Leader in Sports™ is advocating a far higher price for the flyover team than for the Los Angeles or New York teams.

[chasfh]

17 hours ago, papalawrence said:

Skenes isn't getting traded because he is under team control for years. The Pirates won't trade him unless a team makes an offer like the one espn proposed. Of course Det would say no! Hence no chance Skenes gets traded this year

Skenes is also the Golden Goose for that entire franchise.

[chasfh]

18 hours ago, romad1 said:

Only one thing would make me trade for Skenes and that would be the premise that we would have Livy Dunne as this generation's Kate Upton.   

Livvy Dunne >>>>> Kate Upton. 

[Edman85]

14 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

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Lot of natural disasters going on at the moment. He's not ducking the question...

[Shinzaki]

Whenever I think about trading  for Skenes, I think about Kerry Wood and Mark Prior.

Then again...Dusty Baker is nowhere near our organization, so I probably worry too much

[Tenacious D]

55 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

Whenever I think about trading  for Skenes, I think about Kerry Wood and Mark Prior.

Then again...Dusty Baker is nowhere near our organization, so I probably worry too much

Or Steven Strasburg.

[RandyMarsh]

Its just a total roll of the dice trading for a young pitcher like that. You could get 6+ yrs of prime Verlander or Kershaw, or you could get 6 years of Stephen Strasburg.

There just isn't a reliable way to predict their health to my knowledge and for that it's too risky to empty the farm for. 

Edited 14 hours ago by RandyMarsh

[RatkoVarda]

1 minute ago, RandyMarsh said:

ts just a total roll of the dice trading for a young pitcher like that. You could get 6+ yrs of prime Verlander or Kershaw, or you could get 6 years of Stephen Strasburg.

There just isn't a reliable way to predict their health to my knowledge and for that it's too risky to empty the farm for. 

bingo. Skenes could be Nolan Ryan and give you 8 WAR a season for 4.5 years; or he could have TJ 18 months from now

[Tenacious D]

2 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Its just a total roll of the dice trading for a young pitcher like that. You could get 6+ yrs of prime Verlander or Kershaw, or you could get 6 years of Stephen Strasburg.

There just isn't a reliable way to predict their health to my knowledge and for that it's too risky to empty the farm for. 

Or extend one for 10 years/$400M+

[SoCalTiger]

We are enjoying an unprecendented run of great baseball covering two seasons now and are positioned for that                   ( contending) to continue for the foreseeable future and I am not interested on trading that for one player who "might" bring us a title. Championships are great of course but multiple months of contending baseball with a chance at a Title is worth more to me. Stay the course.

[ben9753]

If team strength was rated on a scale of 1-10, I'd rather be an 7 for multiple years than a 10 for a year or 2. I think it's more enjoyable, and you have a better chance of winning the WS by making the playoffs more times than making the playoffs fewer times with a better team. 

[Sports_Freak]

9 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

We are enjoying an unprecendented run of great baseball covering two seasons now and are positioned for that                   ( contending) to continue for the foreseeable future and I am not interested on trading that for one player who "might" bring us a title. Championships are great of course but multiple months of contending baseball with a chance at a Title is worth more to me. Stay the course.

Trade an unknown A ball pitcher to bring back a pitcher who would go 9-0 down the stretch? 😅

But seriously, all the other teams know we want/need some pitching help. They'll be looking to pry our top prospects from us. Hopefully, Harris stays the course and doesn't give in. I strongly dislike giving up prospects for rentals who are usually really expensive. But if he can bring in some good BP help for middling prospects, do it!

[RatkoVarda]

26 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Trade an unknown A ball pitcher to bring back a pitcher who would go 9-0 down the stretch? 😅

while it would have been nice if the Tigers choose Steve Searcy instead of Smoltz, but all that would have done is delayed the Smoltz trade. even if he become a dominant pitcher with the Tigers (not a given), they were so talentless that Smoltz would have been traded in a few years anyhow.

[1984Echoes]

Question:

What would it cost to get Aroldis Chapman?

 

Second question:

Harris finds a cost he is OK with in a trade for: Paul Skenes? Joe Ryan? Or Jacob DeGrom? And what is the cost?

[CaliforniaDreaming]

If Harris trades for Skenes, I believe it will be to help this season AND to be free to trade Skubal during the offseason before he becomes a free agent. So, whatever high cost it takes to get Skenes will be offset by whatever return we get from Skubal (minus the worth of the comp pick we would get for letting him walk). That offset might mean making a deal is possible.

[RandyMarsh]

Somebody I have my eye on is Mike Soroka of the Nationals. Yes at first glance you see his ERA is above 5 but that doesn't tell the whole story. He has an xERA at 3.19 which is elite, has elite K% along with BB%. Also has been pitching better of late. I would gamble on things correcting themselves and him getting luckier in the second half. 

Also last year when put in relief he excelled with a 2.75 ERA and 15 k/9, so even if we don't need him as a starter in the playoffs he could be the swing and miss guy we desperately need out of the bullpen. Also just 27 so somebody that we could look to keep if he performs well down the stretch.

 

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said:

Question:

What would it cost to get Aroldis Chapman?

 

Second question:

Harris finds a cost he is OK with in a trade for: Paul Skenes? Joe Ryan? Or Jacob DeGrom? And what is the cost?

Boston is still in the WC hunt so I don't see them moving Chapman. And Skenes won't be traded.

[Tenacious D]

I don’t want Clark or McGonigle dealt.  I think they were both built for Comerica and are going to be special.  Right behind them is Briceno, but apparently there might be some flaws in his game.  A clear cut defensive position is certainly one.

Anyone else can be had—and our top 10-15 prospects are not fodder.  We have depth we can trade from without compromising any sustained future success.