gehringer_2 Posted August 3 Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: We don't have time travel, so it's not possible to do do that. If we did, I am pretty sure that most players from the early eras of the game would fail today. I am interested in the best way to rank players across different eras. I don't think it's fair or particularly interesting to base it on "what would Honus Wagner be like if they transported him to today". this. Baseball, hitting especially, probably more than most sports, depends on a set of genetic gifts that are likely not distributed any differently in the population today than they ever were. Ted Williams had extraordinary vision capacity that set him apart and allowed him to excel as a hitter. In today's world he would still have that extra-ordinary vision that would set him apart and if he took advantage of all the science, equipment and training tech available today, that extraordinary perceptual apparatus would stlll put him head and shoulders above 99% of the hitters in today's game, just like it did in 1938. Quote
Tenacious D Posted August 3 Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Red Sox getting close to picking up Rutschman. Wonder what they're sending back? Marcelo Mayer? Jake Rogers made Rutschman available? Impressive. rare in-division trade amongst two competitors trying to win a Wild Card. Quote
Tenacious D Posted August 3 Posted August 3 What’s interesting, too, is that the O’s seem to be in a fire sale. If true, might be one less team in the Wild Card mix for us. Quote
papalawrence Posted August 3 Posted August 3 How many of you are going to watch Skubal pitch vs the Cubs tomorrow eve? If I'm done with work fast enough I will watch 1 Quote
CaliforniaDreaming Posted August 3 Posted August 3 5 minutes ago, papalawrence said: How many of you are going to watch Skubal pitch vs the Cubs tomorrow eve? If I'm done with work fast enough I will watch He's not a Tiger so why would I watch? 3 Quote
Klondike99 Posted August 3 Posted August 3 25 minutes ago, papalawrence said: There is a conspiracy theory floating that owners wanted Skubal to end up with LAD to further emphasize the need for a salary cap. It's not just social media fodder, it includes folks like Bob Costas and Foul Territory. The Dodgers are in such an exclusive position. They make mega zillions from their TV concract and can just defer all new player concracts to 2040+. They should have an all star roster. It's an unfare system for sure. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted August 3 Posted August 3 10 minutes ago, papalawrence said: How many of you are going to watch Skubal pitch vs the Cubs tomorrow eve? If I'm done with work fast enough I will watch Only if Harry Carey and Steve Stone do the Broadcast Quote
papalawrence Posted August 3 Posted August 3 14 minutes ago, CaliforniaDreaming said: He's not a Tiger so why would I watch? I will. He was a superstar that I followed for several years. Just like JV, I will still follow, and hope the Dodgers lose 1-0. I hate the Dodgers 1 Quote
papalawrence Posted August 3 Posted August 3 15 minutes ago, Klondike99 said: The Dodgers are in such an exclusive position. They make mega zillions from their TV concract and can just defer all new player concracts to 2040+. They should have an all star roster. It's an unfare system for sure. And don't forget the revenue from their Japanese market. One of their execs said they've made more than the 700 million owed to Ohtani already. So perhaps there is (wink-wink) validity to the owners being ok with Skubal to LAD Quote
IdahoBert Posted August 3 Posted August 3 Skubal is not dead to me. He did not plead for this trade. But I don’t care what he does now. I am not a baseball fan in general. I am a Detroit Tigers fan specifically and for me baseball in general is just noise. I’m not necessarily proud of this, but what other teams and players on other teams are doing has no impact on me. I would like to see us make the playoffs, but I don’t expect our club to get far. 1 Quote
papalawrence Posted August 3 Posted August 3 17 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Only if Harry Carey and Steve Stone do the Broadcast Stone and Benetti were very good as well Quote
NorthWoods Posted August 3 Posted August 3 2 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: I think if we traded him before the year started, we could have had De Paula. But since we waited, we got less (which is how it works). I think this is the best return we could have gotten as well because we waited to deal him. Before the year, I think we could have gotten the full Wrobleski, De Paula, Ryan, Smith package. Hindsight is always easier though ehh. Using a timeline like that for our rebuilds they ought to trade Melton today and kick off the Melton rebuild. Quote
lordstanley Posted August 3 Posted August 3 10 minutes ago, IdahoBert said: I’m not necessarily proud of this, but what other teams and players on other teams are doing has no impact on me. How well Skubal pitches in Game 1 of this year's World Series between the Dodgers and the Tigers will have an impact on you though. 1 Quote
Tenacious D Posted August 3 Posted August 3 7 minutes ago, lordstanley said: How well Skubal pitches in Game 1 of this year's World Series between the Dodgers and the Tigers will have an impact on you though. He’ll get Game 2 1 Quote
KL2 Posted August 3 Posted August 3 7 minutes ago, lordstanley said: How well Skubal pitches in Game 1 of this year's World Series between the Dodgers and the Tigers will have an impact on you though. In the greatest double cross since Thomas Stanley, Skubal serves meatballs to Detroit allowing a WS win then resigns with the Tigers. Hope, Skubal and a World Series win. It's will be talked about for the ages 1 Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted August 3 Posted August 3 13 minutes ago, NorthWoods said: Using a timeline like that for our rebuilds they ought to trade Melton today and kick off the Melton rebuild. I've been talking about next year for two years now. I dunno what bug went up your ass but let it out bro.... Quote
buddha Posted August 3 Posted August 3 2 minutes ago, KL2 said: In the greatest double cross since Thomas Stanley, Skubal serves meatballs to Detroit allowing a WS win then resigns with the Tigers. Hope, Skubal and a World Series win. It's will be talked about for the ages A closer, a closer, my kingdom for a closer... 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted August 3 Posted August 3 22 minutes ago, papalawrence said: Stone and Benetti were very good as well I'm sure they were an improvement over Hawk and whomever. I did like Wimpy when we lived there however Quote
TigerNation Posted August 3 Posted August 3 3 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: I think if we traded him before the year started, we could have had De Paula. But since we waited, we got less (which is how it works). I think this is the best return we could have gotten as well because we waited to deal him. Before the year, I think we could have gotten the full Wrobleski, De Paula, Ryan, Smith package. Hindsight is always easier though ehh. Skubal has no real regular season value to the Dodgers. They gave Tucker $60 mill and he's been awful and it hasn't mattered. They knew going into the season they had the best roster in baseball. Skubals value is 100% about his post season value. They would not have given up a bigger package in the off season than at the deadline. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted August 3 Posted August 3 1 minute ago, TigerNation said: Skubal has no real regular season value to the Dodgers. They gave Tucker $60 mill and he's been awful and it hasn't mattered. They knew going into the season they had the best roster in baseball. Skubals value is 100% about his post season value. They would not have given up a bigger package in the off season than at the deadline. I think we'll agree to disagree. I think if Skubal was made available to everyone before this year started, I think someone would have ponied up more since they'd get the full year out of him. I'm not necessarily saying just the Dodgers.... But I guess we'll never know. Quote
lordstanley Posted August 3 Posted August 3 11 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: He’ll get Game 2 5 2/3 innings, 87 pitches, of Game 2. Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted August 3 Posted August 3 Feels light for someone with so much control but I guess we gave him up in the Rule 5 for nothing Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted August 3 Posted August 3 I wouldn’t have hated giving up so low minors prospects for Robbie Ray like the Padres just did Quote
1984Echoes Posted August 3 Posted August 3 19 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said: They've got a lot of prospects I really like... Which we won't get for Mize... But if a guy can dream a little... LOVE Demetrio Crisantes, David Hagaman, and Mitch Bratt. If we could also give them Torres and Jansen along with Mize to get those guys... yes please. (They are also looking for a RH bat and reliever help I believe...). Quote
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