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Ideally Flaherty comes back soon (the good version), though I don’t think he’s started rehabbing yet.  When he does, will allow us to end pitching chaos, removing some strain on the pen. Add in River Ryan and Brent Hurter as potential upgrades, might also help settle the pen.

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With the Rangers game not starting until 10pm PT, the Tigers will take the field tonight knowing that a win would, at least temporarily, pull them into a tie for the 3rd wildcard spot. 

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1 hour ago, Tenacious D said:

Ideally Flaherty comes back soon (the good version), though I don’t think he’s started rehabbing yet.  When he does, will allow us to end pitching chaos, removing some strain on the pen. Add in River Ryan and Brent Hurter as potential upgrades, might also help settle the pen.

would have been nice to hold onto Mize if they were moving Skubal, but I think they were even more sure Mize would be gone in 27 than Skubal. Because they apparently wanted him gone.  They had at least talked to Skubal, reports from Mize's camp have been the Tiger never opened any negotiations on an extension with Mize.

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1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

McCosky (on BSky) reports Riley is out for tonight, still hoping it's day to day.

Not too big a deal for now with a LHP starting

Hinch said in his post game presser last night that he wasn’t going to play Riley regardless

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37 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

would have been nice to hold onto Mize if they were moving Skubal, but I think they were even more sure Mize would be gone in 27 than Skubal. Because they apparently wanted him gone.  They had at least talked to Skubal, reports from Mize's camp have been the Tiger never opened any negotiations on an extension with Mize.

I’m fine with moving on from Mize.  I liked him a lot but when you can’t rely on him to go more than 5 or 6 starts without any kind of injury flare up, it makes it kind of tough to see him as a long term option.  Better to utilize the money he would command elsewhere.

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14 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I’m fine with moving on from Mize.  I liked him a lot but when you can’t rely on him to go more than 5 or 6 starts without any kind of injury flare up, it makes it kind of tough to see him as a long term option.  Better to utilize the money he would command elsewhere.

I think Mize first parted company with the Tiger's FO after his TJ when it took so long for him to get back. Maybe that wan't anyone's fault but he wasn't happy about it. Then his relationship with Hinch has always seemed frosty, headlined with his exclusion from the playoff roster. To everyone's credit (I guess), no-one talked out of turn about anything but the outcome makes it all seem pretty clear - no love lost. 

My knock with Mize wes that he didn't seem mentally tough enough early in his career. The last two years I think he was a much better competitor but the injuries got ridiculous.

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It is weird they are playing better after the deadline but that's probably just chance rather than coincidence. I have no regrets and still think Harris made the right decision but the Monday morning quarterbacks will be out in force without a doubt sooner or later. 

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9 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

It is weird they are playing better after the deadline but that's probably just chance rather than coincidence. I have no regrets and still think Harris made the right decision but the Monday morning quarterbacks will be out in force without a doubt sooner or later. 

I don’t care about making the playoffs. If it happens great, if it doesn’t great.

I think the drama of seeing the young guys coming up in the system is more rewarding than anything else I’ve seen for a long time. Just plain baseball is enough for me.

I know for a lot of people this is just vanilla and I get that. But there are some really exotic versions of vanilla and for me this is one of them.
 

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1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

would have been nice to hold onto Mize if they were moving Skubal, but I think they were even more sure Mize would be gone in 27 than Skubal. Because they apparently wanted him gone.  They had at least talked to Skubal, reports from Mize's camp have been the Tiger never opened any negotiations on an extension with Mize.

Maybe Mize was the addition by subtraction in the room?   

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10 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

I don’t care about making the playoffs. If it happens great, if it doesn’t great.

I think the drama of seeing the young guys coming up in the system is more rewarding than anything else I’ve seen for a long time. Just plain baseball is enough for me.

I know for a lot of people this is just vanilla and I get that. But there are some really exotic versions of vanilla and for me this is one of them.
 

There's  nothing more fun in sports than watching a young team work their way up, improve and start to win.

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2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

McCosky (on BSky) reports Riley is out for tonight, still hoping it's day to day.

Not too big a deal for now with a LHP starting

Yeah, in his post-game, Hinch said he was sitting him tonight, no matter what. Tomorrow is a day gane, I suspect after we win tonight, Riley will be off tomorrow too.

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1 hour ago, NorthWoods said:

There's  nothing more fun in sports than watching a young team work their way up, improve and start to win.

This is so true, especially since I didn’t expect lightning to strike twice as it did in 2024 and then now in 2026. 

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3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

would have been nice to hold onto Mize if they were moving Skubal, but I think they were even more sure Mize would be gone in 27 than Skubal. Because they apparently wanted him gone.  They had at least talked to Skubal, reports from Mize's camp have been the Tiger never opened any negotiations on an extension with Mize.

But also... the return was too high to turn down.

Mize has been sporadic at best (mostly due to injuries, but still...) the past several years.

Kash Mayfield has an electric LH arm (12 K's /9 between low and high A).

And they must really like Jackson Wolf's funky dance bob-and-weave motion/ side-arming lefty as well...

 

 

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1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

... I know for a lot of people this is just vanilla and I get that. But there are some really exotic versions of vanilla and for me ...

Vanilla Bean?

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The tigers were 15-17 in Skubal-Mize starts. Of those 32 starts, only 3 were during our terrible May (all 3 Mize starts, 1-2 in those games), meaning they were 14-15 during the time when the team actually won games at a positive rate.

Outside of games started by those two, the tigers are 44-43.

Does this mean anything? Probably not. But I do think the loss of those two starts is not nearly as detrimental to the overall quality of this year’s team. It’s not analytical to rely on the eye test, but nothing about this current version of the team makes me think it’s a .500 team at best going forward like FG and BP will tell you. 
 

That said, playoff odds:

FG 37.5

BP 28.9

Bref 54.7

FG season to date mode 61.9

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