digitalpigsmuggler Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Russia has a record trade SURPLUS. Sanctions are having a limited effect. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/russias-economy-holds-growing-challenges-test-putin-97818141 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, digitalpigsmuggler said: Russia has a record trade SURPLUS. Sanctions are having a limited effect. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/russias-economy-holds-growing-challenges-test-putin-97818141 UM - if you have a *surplus* that's because you are selling oil but no-one will sell *you* anything. Seems that is pretty much what the international community has been aiming at. No-on had any illusions you could stop India and China from buying Russian oil. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: UM - if you have a *surplus* that's because you are selling oil but no-one will sell *you* anything. Seems that is pretty much what the international community has been aiming at. No-on had any illusions you could stop India and China from buying Russian oil. If Sanctions are having limited effect (like they always have limited effect) you don't want to be pushing the international community any further than that. Particularly, if you have shown your ass as a military the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 well, good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I don’t think a limited amount of tanks are going to have some magical effect. Kupiansk seems like it might fall to the Russians. Evacuations declared mandatory, signals from Ukraine they might pull back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) Clown expert thinks he knows military science. Edited March 14, 2023 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 reminds me of the Israeli Army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, romad1 said: reminds me of the Israeli Army I was thinking of something different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 52 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: I was thinking of something different... well, the Israeli army has a lot of very nice looking ladies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, romad1 said: well, the Israeli army has a lot of very nice looking ladies. I wouldn't know since I don't go looking for pics like that... But since you posted that vid... I have to say, those are some very lovely ladies. Just as, if not more, beautiful on the inside that they are willing to take up arms in defense of their country against aggression and tyranny. I would think that that vid is also... somewhat effective as a recruiting tool. Ukrainian guys I know are signing up to defend their country. That vid I think could only help (courage, defend your family/ country/ wife and children... etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 12 hours ago, romad1 said: Clown expert thinks he knows military science. Quote One senior Ukrainian government official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid, called the number of tanks promised by the West a “symbolic” amount. Others privately voiced pessimism that promised supplies would even reach the battlefield in time. “If you have more resources, you more actively attack,” the senior official said. “If you have fewer resources, you defend more. We’re going to defend. That’s why if you ask me personally, I don’t believe in a big counteroffensive for us. I’d like to believe in it, but I’m looking at the resources and asking, ‘With what?’ Maybe we’ll have some localized breakthroughs.” We don’t have the people or weapons,” the senior official added. “And you know the ratio: When you’re on the offensive, you lose twice or three times as many people. We can’t afford to lose that many people.” Kupol, who consented to having his photograph taken and said he understood he could face personal blowback for giving a frank assessment, described going to battle with newly drafted soldiers who had never thrown a grenade, who readily abandoned their positions under fire and who lacked confidence in handling firearms. His unit withdrew from Soledar in eastern Ukraine in the winter after being surrounded by Russian forces who later captured the city. Kupol recalled how hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers in units fighting alongside his battalion simply abandoned their positions, even as fighters for Russia’s Wagner mercenary group pressed ahead. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/13/ukraine-casualties-pessimism-ammunition-shortage/ Both sides have been seriously degraded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gehringer_2 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 hours ago, digitalpigsmuggler said: Both sides have been seriously degraded. That is true, but Ukraine is fully mobilized, motivated and has been able to train, re-arm at with increasingly modern weapons, and rotate and reconsititute its forces. The Russians are throwing the dregs of their society - convicts and what's left of the young adult population that didn't have the sense, ability to think for themselves and social competence to flee the country already and often with 80yr kit, into a fight they have no interest in. Take your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: I wonder if the next one will be sent out with a couple of F15s loitering 20k feet above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: I wonder if the next one will be sent out with a couple of F15s loitering 20k feet above. I can't comment on anything but this appears to be a weak ass bit of punkery by the most punk ass air force in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Actually... that's MO for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 interesting. I like a nice tease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Actually... that's MO for them. Their MO is to suck. So, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mtutiger Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: That is true, but Ukraine is fully mobilized, motivated and has been able to train, re-arm at with increasingly modern weapons, and rotate and reconsititute its forces. The Russians are throwing the dregs of their society - convicts and what's left of the young adult population that didn't have the sense, ability to think for themselves and social competence to flee the country already and often with 80yr kit, into a fight they have no interest in. Take your choice. It should be noted that the vaunted Russian Military was widely expected to take Kiev and decapitate the government in a matter of weeks and even days. And didn't. It's amazing how frequently the Ukraine haters gloss over that.... Edited March 14, 2023 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 15 hours ago, romad1 said: interesting. I like a nice tease. Here it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Russia claims that they took out the MQ-9 Reaper because it threatened its sovereignty. Welp. Shoot down any Russian aircraft that gets close to NATO territory I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, romad1 said: Here it is Another reason we need to keep assisting Ukraine. If you think Vlad is going to stop here, you’re fooling yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 15 hours ago, romad1 said: Some pretty good jokes in that thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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