Shinzaki Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 12/5/2022 at 6:12 AM, Deleterious said: Bates with a 29 point game. Looked up his season stats and he is averaging 21.5 PPG on OK shooting. But man, he averages 2.3 TO's and only .9 assists per game. Seems like if you play 33 mpg and have the ball that much you should at least average 1 assist per game. In fairness to him...EMU is a terrible team in a less than stellar league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 I missed this when it came out at the end of November. He has Bates at #34. 2023 NBA Draft Top 100 Big Board: Wembanyama at the top; plus, Emoni Bates returns RANK PLAYER TEAM POS. DRAFT DAY AGE HT. WT. 1 Victor Wembanyama Metropolitans 92 C 19 7-5 235 2 Scoot Henderson G League Ignite G 19 6-2 195 3 Amen Thompson Overtime Elite G 20 6-7 195 4 Cam Whitmore Villanova W 18 6-7 225 5 Nick Smith Jr. Arkansas G 19 6-5 185 6 Brandon Miller Alabama F 20 6-9 200 7 Keyonte George Baylor G 19 6-5 185 8 Cason Wallace Kentucky G 19 6-4 195 9 Anthony Black Arkansas G/W 19 6-7 185 10 Dariq Whitehead Duke W 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 How close are Amen Thompson and Henderson? I love Amen's length and athleticism but not sure if he's close enough to take at number 2 ahead of Scoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: How close are Amen Thompson and Henderson? I love Amen's length and athleticism but not sure if he's close enough to take at number 2 ahead of Scoot. The top 2 picks are locked in IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 Speaking of Bates. He received 18 months probation today on those gun charges from a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buddha Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 on the one hand, watching the bulls' mismatched roster full of guys who can score one on one but dont play a lick of defense implode has been so much fun. on the other hand, i dread the draft lottery where the league gives them wembanyama or henderson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 The best thing about the Bulls situation. They only keep their pick if it is 1-4. 5-30 and it goes to Orlando. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Deleterious said: The best thing about the Bulls situation. They only keep their pick if it is 1-4. 5-30 and it goes to Orlando. which guarantees it will be top 3. ask derrick rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 I'm starting to think Amen is locking up the #3 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 bulls gave up 150 to the twolves w/o gobert or kat. now all the "lavine isnt happy" shams tweets are coming out. they just gave donovan a contract extension AND just gave lavine a max deal. and now the fans want to blow it all up. lolbulls. so nice to see them suck after derozan bailed them out all last year with that horsehoe stuck up his butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 If we miss on the chance for Victor...Brandon Miller is intriguing. Have to try and find some "Bama games online or ESPN plus to check him out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 Some are questioning the competition he is going against in the OTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 I realize it will mostly be an offensive exhibition. But we will see Scoot go up against some NBA guys over all star weekend. He will be playing in the rising stars game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 New mock from Vecenie. NBA Mock Draft: Wembanyama, Henderson lead class; Whitmore, Miller emerge in Top 5 HOU - Victor Wembanyama DET - Scoot Henderson SAS - Amen Thompson CHA - Cam Whitmore ORL - Brandon Miller TOR - Ausar Thompson WSH- Cason Wallace OKC - Jarace Walker NOP (via LAL) - Nick Smith Jr. ORL (via CHI) - Dariq Whitehead Quote 2. Detroit Pistons Scoot Henderson | 6-2 lead guard | 19 years old | G League Ignite Henderson is the no-doubter No. 2 prospect in this class, a player who pretty clearly would have gone first overall in both the 2022 and 2020 NBA drafts. He’s a wildly explosive athlete on the level of guys like Ja Morant and Derrick Rose at the lead guard position, while also possessing immense skill and feel for the game as a passer and playmaker. First, though, the athleticism. This dunk he threw down last week showcases everything you need to know about the kind of athlete Henderson is. Beyond that, Henderson is averaging over 20 points while shooting just under 50 percent from the field and dishing out six assists per game with a 2-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio as a teenager in the G League. He is by far the most successful preps-to-G-League story we’ve seen thus far and looks ready to step into the NBA as a starting point guard potentially as soon as next season. The one flaw that evaluators will point to is the shooting from distance, but Henderson has a well-developed midrange pull-up game that he can get at will, and in time, scouts believe he will be able to add to his repertoire from behind the 3-point line to stop teams from going way under his screens. Quote 3. San Antonio Spurs Amen Thompson | 6-7 lead guard | 20 years old | Overtime Elite This is where the questions start. Thompson is the highest-upside player remaining. He’ll enter the NBA as a top 1 percent athlete in the league, and that is not an exaggeration. It’s hard to overemphasize his mix of explosiveness, quick-twitch, shiftiness and body control at his size. He’s truly special in the way he can fly up and down the court, shift gears as a playmaker and then quickly rise up with power and grace within the run of play. He has every athletic tool you could want. Beyond that, Thompson is also a highly impressive live-dribble passer and finisher at the rim. He is a walking paint touch who throws live-dribble kickouts and lobs from any angle with both hands and is also a threat to creatively score around legitimate rim protectors. The big question here is the jumper. Thompson’s jumper is very messy at this point and will require substantial developmental work by the team that selects him. Even then, it’s unlikely to ever be a first choice for him. But he does at least need the threat. If that threat comes, there is genuine All-NBA upside with Thompson. If it doesn’t, I still think he’s likely to be a starting quality point guard, but it’ll limit his effectiveness to an extent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 really need to be in the top 2. your choice between a taller kevin durant or the second coming of Ja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, buddha said: really need to be in the top 2. your choice between a taller kevin durant or the second coming of Ja. The Piston's can't seriously draft another guy in the 1st round whose outside shooting is questionable, can they? Reminds me of the Tigers filling their rosters with DH's years ago. Edited January 13, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: The Piston's can't seriously draft another guy in the 1st round whose outside shooting is questionable, can they? Reminds me of the Tigers filling their rosters with DH's years ago. amen thompson? the pistons need a lot of things. a 6'7 uber athlete who can defend is one of them. not being able to shoot is definitely an issue, but if he can defend, he'll be drafted real high. otoh, patrick williams was supposed to be that guy and he's been a bust in chicago. but that might have more to do with his passive personality and not mixing well with lavine/derozen. hard to develop when all you do is stand in the corner and watch those two go one on five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, buddha said: amen thompson? the pistons need a lot of things. a 6'7 uber athlete who can defend is one of them. not being able to shoot is definitely an issue, but if he can defend, he'll be drafted real high. So be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 Few things I forgot to mention. Wembanyama is only shooting 29% from three. He shot 25% last year. Bates is listed at #40. Sam has Jett Howard at #16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 If the Pistons land at 2 do they take Scoot and figure that they can find enough guard minutes (and some small ball wing) to play Cade, Ivey and Hayes along with him, or do they try to trade Killian? Have to think he has considerably more value now than he did 6 months ago... Or do they trade out of two to nab and wing and additional picks/players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 You draft Scoot and don't think twice about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 you dont trade a guy like scoot. i dont think you would need to trade anyone right now. the issue will be paying them all down the road. but that would be a good headache to have in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 And if they finish 3rd or 4th in the draft order? Anyone interested in Brandon Miller? 6' 9" sharp-shooting SF hitting 44% on 3's...? I'm thinking the Pistons could use some of that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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