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ortiz being revered by the press and the others being cast out as pariahs is the biggest effing joke. ortiz is the POSTER CHILD for peds, was caught red handed, and because he's the jolly ****ing fat man from boston he gets off scot free. total bull****.

Ed Irwin Ed Irwin played third base for the Tigers on May 18, 1912 as part of a squad of replacement players. Many readers here know the story of Ty Cobb being suspended by American League president Ban Johnson for attacking a heckler in the crowd, and the team's subsequent refusal to take the field until Cobb was reinstated. After Johnson threated to fine Tigers owner Frank Navin $5000 for any forfeited games, the notoriously tight fisted Navin ordered Tigers manager Hughie Jennings to "find players". The Tigers were in Philadelphia to play against the Athletics, and sources report that Jennings recruited any young men he could find in the neighborhood of Shibe Park, the Athletics' home. Irwin was one of those young men, and in his only major league game, he astonishingly hit two triples in three at bats. Tigers starting pitcher Allen Travers, also making his only MLB appearance, said that he was actually pitching well "until they started bunting. The fellow playing third base had never played baseball before." According to Wikipedia, Irwin died four years later when he was "thrown through a saloon window in Philadelphia, a shard of glass penetrating his jugular vein." There is no report on whether the squad of replacement players was issued Tigers uniforms, or if they just played in whatever attire they happened to be wearing when found. Also, this is what the internet offers for an image of Ed Irwin.

General observation: Player Development Motownforums is more virulent and toxic than the political forums. Lots of passion leavened with analysis.

I don't really understand all of the discussion happening among the Tiger fanbase about the timeline. You don't draft for need in baseball and, also, Greene is arguably the only legit building block on the team and he's 22. If Clark develops like the Tigers hope he will, then he'll be in Detroit when Greene is only in his mid 20's. I don't really see the issue.

This is crazy! This person is a Chinese agent!

You should see his mom

Perron...Larkin...DeBrincat Ras...Compher...Raymond Berggren...Copp...Sprong Kostin...Veleno...Fischer

That is a legit concern. The only good thing that has been done during the Manfred years and they are going to **** it up.

Only Tigers... In case the spoiler tag attempt doesn't work, it's late enough in the day that I hope it doesn't spoil anything. [Spoiler] [/Spoiler]

I do one real version on my phone then cheat and do a Tigers only version on my laptop using Baseball Reference to help me remember some Tigers. I honestly think the cheating version is more fun.

Immaculate grid pisses me off, but I keep on playing every day! I feel like I should do better and know I would have done better when I was younger. I get some 7s and 8's, but can't quite get to 9 even though I always feel like I am on the verge.

I have been working on a structure for the Killian Hayes extension. Send him a link to our season ticket packages and tell him that is how he can watch our games live for the 2024-25 season.

Never heard of this fun game until somebody posted it in this thread a couple weeks ago and now I'll addicted so I hope this transaction is only for the better.

I'll take the 80 year thin dude who rides bikes over the 77 year old fat guy who eats fast food daily.

Good value contract for Stew. He's probably get more next year if we waited, especially if the three ball continues to improve. A switchable big who can play the 4/5 and hit open threes is getting closer to 20M next year if he hits the market. The fact that the 4th year is a team option makes it even better and more tradeable if necessary.

Irwin had two triples in three at-bats in the game. He shares the record with Cecil Bolton for most triples in a career with no other hits at two. Irwin was the only member of the replacement Tigers to get a hit in a 24-2 loss. Two members of the coaching staff (Deacon McGuire and Joe Sugden), who were pressed into service for that game, also got one hit each.

no way their losses split 4 -1 div/non-div. Not gonna happen.

Jobe would not have lasted 15 picks had Al Al not taken him...Noble Meyer isn't as highly rated and he went 10th in a deeper draft. Jobe needs to be in WM ASAP...he's far too advanced for Lakeland

I think a lot of people are shocked by the dollar amount and don't realize the cap is $136M now. Not uncommon for a bench player to get the full MLE which is $13M this year. So $15M a year is only 11% of the salary cap this year. That dips down into single digits next year. Decent value for a possible 5th starter or sixth man type guy. Even more so for a center who defensively is somewhat switchable on the perimeter. The Bagley extension generates a lot more anger from me than the Stewart extension.

I’m pretty sure that for a while, every time I hear of McGonigle, I’ll think of Patty and Selma.

OOTP players definitely talk back. Some of them outright lip off.

This roster looks now looks like a real Eastern conference playoff contender. Should be a fun team to watch.

Or if Clark and Langford were roughly equal on the board and Clark was willing to take a million less, take him and spread the money around. Time will tell if they are even able to draft McGonigle if they took Langford.

It's because Cody and his fanboy cohost mentioned it on their podcast, so everybody has to parrot it.

Chicago & national media. It is criminal how this was swept under the rug.

That was my point. There was some worry about the salary cap and having both Max Clark and Riley Greene. How can that be any kind of worry when their timelines are so far apart? I don't see an issue. Which was my point... same thing you're saying...

I was just looking back at the Nashua Rosters. They had an AA team from 1983-1986. I saw future major leaguers like Devon White and Bobby Bonilla, but the guy I remember the most was Reggieeeee WEST! He had a good season for them, but never made it to the majors. I also remember Biiiiiiiip Roberts. The cool thing about Holman Stadium is that it was the home of the first racially intregrated team of the 20th century. Their roster included Roy Campanella and Don Newcombe. They later had some independent teams (which is when I saw the Cansecos), but could not support a modern affiliated team.

My respect level for Andre just went up a bit. Shame he didn't realize this 6 or 7 years ago.

Could look like a really good deal if he continues to improve. I don't think its insane to think he improves a bit more this year and could be a $17m-$20m guy next year if he was a FA.

Reid is a bench player for the Wolves while Stew is the starter here for better or worse, different roles, and the AAV is fairly equal (14 v. 16m), plus Stewart's contract kicks in a year later when the cap will be higher. It's a fair deal, nothing to celebrate but nothing to groan about either IMO.

I think it being Northwestern probably made him more likely to be fired than had it been an SEC school not named Vanderbilt. The highest echelon of universities care about their public image, making money, and not much else. Some are better at protecting their image than others, but I don’t think Northwestern’s ultimate decision makers would hesitate for a second to burn entire athletic programs to the ground, so long as it the cost in money doesn’t outweigh the benefit to image… fresh off a 1-11 season, this was easy.

Stew signs a 4 year $64 million deal with the Pistons

I loved when Nashua had a AA team (first the Angels and then the Pirates) and I went frequently. So, I wouldn't be surprised if we were at one of the same games. Those were some of my best ballpark experieces ever. It was before minor league games were popular, so the crowds were not large and it was all baseball. A minor league game was not a circus with non-stop music and sounds and all the silliness between innings. Some of that stuff is fun but they over do it.

yeah! that will show em!

Team driven results for a pitcher can't mean a whole lot in HS. Part of why it takes a big committment to be good drafting preps - you have to go see, gather, verify for yourself. You can sit in the Front Office and collect stats and film of a college kid playing in a major conference and have some idea about the value of his stats before you ever decide to scout him yourself, but there is no way around all that being more work for preps.

I like drafting up the middle if the opportunity is there.

Kaline, Cash and Colavito was pretty nice.

So we just dropped our cable service and kept their internet. The problem is these companies know they have you by the short hairs because they all signed long term contracts with local communities guaranteeing them a monopoly nearly 50 years ago. We eventually managed to break the Ma Bell Monopoly, why are we still stuck with cable/internet monopolies?

I don't like the idea that we aren't supposed to criticize anything that teams do because they know more than us. However, I think the gap in knowledge is much larger when it comes to amateur players. All most of us have to go off of is second hand scouting reports and an few video clips. Once players have been around for a while, I think the gap narrows somewhat.

You can say that about literally every move a franchise makes so just cause were only fans are we never allowed to have an opinion on a move a team you follow makes? And for the record that's all these are is opinions, I think most on here make it clear that we don't know more about the team than the Tigers do we're just offering up our views on a subject on a message board.

With the exception of one person, the people in this thread have something on the degree of 0.01% of the information that the people who made these picks have. Really really harsh draft day opinions are a symptom of hanging out on the left side of the Dunning Kruger chart.

He could have gone 5th or 6th but went 3rd. A quick conversation gets an agreement at #4 slot money and we draft him. Langford could have said I won't sign unless it's #3 slot money plus 5%. Or something like that... There's wiggle room. The slot #'s are not set in stone. Going over or under restricts what a team can do in later rounds though... There are penalties for paying more than 5% of a teams' OVERALL draft $ allotment (NOT per pick.. overall number...)

Independent league ball is fun - very low key, but some decent talent in some leagues. There was a team up in Nashua, NH many years back which would sometimes get former big leaguers for a period of time and I got to see the Cansecos hot dogging it at Holman Stadium. Another time, Rickey Henderson was supposed to play and the place was unusually packed. Unfortunately, he was a no show.

While waiting in line for a Disney ride, my kids and I started counting "lap belts" and I can confirm that they are still widely used at amusement parks. I had one back in the day and loved the convenience but bowed to peer pressure and it went the way of my mullet. That said, no amount of mocking will ever make me stop wearing cargo shorts and bending the brim on my ball caps. Eat it junior.