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I think that is because many fans believe the Tigers can get more for one year of Skubal than they likely will.

The wife pointed out that we gave Libertarian leader Millei more in one go than the entire USAID budget. Pretty much encapsulated the situation. Welfare for the Oligarchs and ****all for the poor, the sick, the needy. That camel ain't getting through that needle eye.

I went to bed after 9 innings. Did the Blue Jays announcer do a game re-cap?

I'm in the minority, but I would roll with Skubal in 2026 through the season, regardless of where we are at the trade deadline. I don't see any team giving us the OMG deal either this winter or in July. It's definitely a gamble, but as Skubal is taking a gamble on himself, the Tigers should make the same gamble, even if we only get a draft pick. Yes, they still need to pick up another front line starter this winter, a couple relievers ( though I hope Madden & Dylan Smith can take a step forward in 2026), and a big RHH preferably RF.

probably a response to the clickbait rumors and that generated chatter.

I can see one guy from that core being moved, but otherwise for good or bad, that's it. If I'm going to play armchair GM, and I feel I have to move a core player for some pitching, the guy I'd like to move would be Carpenter. I'd have to buy out most of Javy's deal to move him, besides he's my safety net in CF. If you get a catcher who can receive and throw, and even hit some, you hold onto that for dear life, so I'm not even answering the phone about Dingler. Torkelson might bring back something of value but I'd just have to turn around and shop for a RH bat to replace his production. That leaves Greene and Carp and I think Greene crimped his value last season. I'd rather risk that he gets back on track than sell low. That last part is the gamble. I'd rather know all that the coaching staff knows about Greene's season from the inside before making that call.

When you look at Whitewater... it's such small potatoes. Seriously. The scandal responsible for much of the drama in the 1990's.... go research it. It wouldn't even get noticed today. Every person who ever criticized Bill Clinton but supports the current guy is a hypocrite. Trump is Clinton on steroids, super soldier serum, and everything else. He's all of Clinton's flaws multiplied exponentially.

This team needs to stop trying to play traditional basketball and embrace the chaos. They don't have the skill or roster makeup to play a beautiful half court game. They do have the athletes to play fast and create chaos. I know it's only four games, but their current pace is 14th in the league. With this young and athletic roster, they need to be top 3-5 in terms of pace. Think about the best basketball we saw last season. It was always when they played fast, both on offense and defense. High pressure defense, and run run run on offense. Embrace the chaos.

Can you imagine the apathy if not only do you take a team out of contention by making the team worse this year and then have a work stoppage in 2027?

They need to keep him unless they get overwhelmed with an offer. Trading your ace pitcher when you are likely going to contend is not a good move. I would think the players would not like that much.

Cruz is not a good source for that kind of crap. and why is the right wing so obsessed with this race? I wish I could put my finger on it... actually I can

I don't see Harris trading Skubal unless he is offered a crazy deal. If Detroit keeps him through 2026, I have a hunch he'll sit a while as a free agent, as it's likely there will be a work stoppage in 2027.

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Freddy Something Freeman?

God bless the Chicago Public Library.

Never understood why nobody hits him. Lay him out once and he won't act like this.

Plus he's ignorant, which is one thing you could never say about Bill Clinton. Despite whatever character failings he had, he had a firm command of both facts and policy.

May favorite "hidden perk" was for a while when I had to fly back and forth regularly from DTW to MSP early in the morning. For whatever reason at that time Delta just had open boarding on that first flight. Just walk to the gate and right onto the plane. Maybe because the plane was already there in the morning pre-prepped and ready to go? Don't know why but it was a real throw back to 30yrs earlier when flying was still something to look forward to.

Chip shoot? Comp shoot? Cusp shoot? Clap shoot? Am I close? 😉

All in for 2026, you keep Skubal ( yeah, maybe he gets the injury bug this year, or the main piece in return for the trade does ?? ), every year is a c**p shoot each year. He is your best option to lead the team for 2026, each year is a whole new ballgame. Try to get Bichette, he can play SS for a couple years while you determine where McGonigle, Keith, Lee, Anderson play or get traded. A RH hitter for the OF. Then Dingler, Greene, Meadows / Clark ? , RH OF, Tork, Bichette, Torres / McGonigle / Keith. Skubal, #2 SP, Mize, Melton, Jobe (2nd half ?), Olson, Flaherty. Start there and see what flies or sinks....

Harris already talked about not blocking young players so they probably don't go after any position players. Maybe a qualifying offer for Torres.

I don’t think fans want to see him go, but are resigned to it, so would like to see us get players in return. I don’t share this view—I’d prefer going all in for 2026.

I'm not advocating signing him to a long term deal (even though I'd definitely be happy if they did as it would mean they figure the $ work). I'm saying what Lee, Chas, and Brian are saying, you don't trade your Ace (who will be closer to $20 mil for 2026) when trading him takes you from being the favorites in the division to playoff long shots. And for sure TV and radio ratings will drop if they aren't in contention and that is where most of the long term revenue $ end up being. I know I don't make it a point to watch at least part of probably 80% of their games when they are having down years like I did last year.

But if this is an issue, isn't it going to be an even bigger issue if he walks for nothing at the end of '26 as compared to getting some talent back this off-season? The players know the set-up as well as anyone. I assume most of them and us want the team to be able to continue to contend beyond '26? I'm not saying it's not a potential issue, just that you are going to face it either way - it's just a matter of when.

yeah - exactly. I'm sure there is a trade out there that would work to the Tigers advantage, but it's just a fact that few GMs ever make a trade like that. And I think it would have to be at least a three way deal - it has to be a more complex set of swaps to get enough pieces to fit. And since we have never seen Harris swing any kind of complex deal (cf, DD), there is no precedent to expect one.

I don't trust anybody who tells me MLB teams are losing money, even business journals that get their information from we can probably guess what sources.

Jay's batter swung and missed at ball four with the bases loaded in the 17th or 18th (? it's kind of a blur!). The door was open but they couldn't walk through.

Under this idiocracy that we live in, expect to see more and more headlines like this. But their stock will boom and Kool- aid drinker and other old white dudes that live off of Fox News and Newsmax will scream that the Trump economy is great. Hell, they even fired the people that gave us the real numbers and replaced them with maga-holics. https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/amazon-targets-many-30000-corporate-job-cuts-sources-say-2025-10-27/ Just imagine if Biden or Obama fired the people that kept track of unemployment and inflation numbers because they didn't like what those numbers said. They'd be spewing kool-aid all over the place at Fox. OH YEEEEAAAHH!!!

Earl Wilson hit 35 home runs in 740 career at-bats, including 7 hr in 88 ab's in 1968

these kinds of claims are still BS though. In the end, all dollars are fungible. I'm sure there are some donors only interested sports, but there are a lot of donors that might have endowed a 100 scholarships or built a chem lab if they have gotten the same pitch from a different development official.

I hate the Dodgers

Freeman the hero! At 10 minutes to midnight.

The chopper then needs to pick up a crumpled Fred Lynn and get him to treatment.

Overturned call. Jays have the bases loaded.

It’s really neat how the Blue Jays can score runs and not strike out 17 times and just shrug it off.

I have been starting to realize that not having to care may be the only benefit of growing older. I still have a hard time mastering it though.

When the Blue Jays screwed the pooch and didn’t score in the top of the 2nd, then Hernandez hit that home run for the Dodgers in the bottom of the 2nd, I was really upset until I remembered I don’t actually have to care about this. The sense of freedom in not being obligated to care is a real delight.

This is why peacock sucks. After that Paul Reed dunk I need Blaha to say, don't look now they are only down 28.

you replaced beasley's insane production last year with joe harris 2.0. you replaced shroeder's production with an old, injured caris levert. and we expected them to be better this year? they are back to the same problems they had before last season: no shooting and no one else to handle the ball except cade. no ivey is just murdering them.

This game has had one of the most egregious strike-that-wasn’t-a-strike calls you will ever see. ABS can’t come fast enough.

You literally celebrate when those folks get fired. And you support the GOP federal cover up of pedos

He knows our team so well he’ll probably pitch complete game no hitters against us.

I guess Max is the Blue Jays starter for game three. I don’t particularly have anything against players that are traded away or leave through free agency, but I am resentful at the success they enjoy elsewhere and experience it as a betrayal, even though it’s not. So I am all for Max tonight although I don’t think I’ll watch the game and I’ll just probably peek in here and there.

Meth belt?

69% of people getting SNAP are either children, elderly, or the disabled (my son among the latter). Of the remaining 31%, 70% of those are working. Keep that in mind when you hear the usual chest thumping about "fraud" and "lazy people".

Jordan Love is just stupid lucky. Just throw the ball up in the air for your guys to come down with it.

Thompson and Holland look they are going to be making significant gains this season. 2 of Stewart, Holland, and Thompson on the floor at all times, please, just for some defensive havoc.

They show it about the 45 second mark. Gutsy since he had 2 fouls at the time.

Easy there, whippersnapper.

Some data to back up the eye test