Deleterious Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 Never heard of this gut but it appears he writes for the New York Times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 That is a new wrinkle. Did Gores just kneecap Weaver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 oh great. the one scenario worse than troy weaver hiring his buddy is tom gores making a coaching decision. i take that back, late joe dumars era coaching decisions would be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betrayer Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 On 5/19/2023 at 2:04 PM, buddha said: oh great. the one scenario worse than troy weaver hiring his buddy is tom gores making a coaching decision. i take that back, late joe dumars era coaching decisions would be worse. I don't know, I view it as Gores might save us from Weaver's nepotism on this one. Ironic that Gores could be the savior here, but I'm ok with whatever prevents us from hiring Ollie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Betrayer Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 One of those meetings needs to be with Quinn. If they called him and he doesn't want the job, fine, but I haven't heard anything about them even pursuing him. Look at what Miami is doing in the playoffs with way less star power than any other team, including multiple undrafted players in significant minutes. The players hold each other accountable but they don't rule the roost. It's very much an old school culture under Riley and Spo. They're about playing defense, playing the right way, moving the ball, trust, culture, and heart. They're playing the way our most beloved Detroit teams have played and we need to get back on that track. People are going to be trying to pluck assistants off of the Miami coaching tree like they used to do with the San Antonio tree. If we haven't at least made an effort to call and interview Quinn, we're idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Betrayer said: One of those meetings needs to be with Quinn. If they called him and he doesn't want the job, fine, but I haven't heard anything about them even pursuing him. Look at what Miami is doing in the playoffs with way less star power than any other team, including multiple undrafted players in significant minutes. The players hold each other accountable but they don't rule the roost. It's very much an old school culture under Riley and Spo. They're about playing defense, playing the right way, moving the ball, trust, culture, and heart. They're playing the way our most beloved Detroit teams have played and we need to get back on that track. People are going to be trying to pluck assistants off of the Miami coaching tree like they used to do with the San Antonio tree. If we haven't at least made an effort to call and interview Quinn, we're idiots. the optimistic scenario is that they are waiting until the playoffs are over to speak with him. maybe that's why they havent made the decision already. the pessimistic scenario is that he's white and therefore not a candidate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 Other teams have received permission to talk with him so I doubt they are waiting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 JEIII was hinting at Gores' involvement today on his pod. saying weaver has his guy, but he isnt hired yet and now theyre having another round of interviews....so someone up the chain isnt buying kevin ollie yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 The moment I don't trust my gm to how a coach is the moment I fire him. The flip side. The moment my owner won't let me hire the coach I want is the moment I quit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 now the reports are that we offered williams a contract and he turned it down. and that troy wants kevin ollie.... the guy no one else wants (including our owner) is our gms #1 choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) This is becoming Detroit's biggest clown show since Oopsy Edited May 25, 2023 by Shinzaki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 49 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: This is becoming Detroit's biggest clown show since Oopsy It's damn tough to be optimistic with this team right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Betrayer Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 It's also being reported that they offered Monty Williams a large contract and he rejected it. Imagine going through a multi-week process to get the Pistons HC job and then you find out that in the middle of all that they made a side offer to another coach who never even got an interview or had to fly to LA to see Gores. Maybe the Pistons "narrowed" it to 2 candidates, or maybe Collins just decided this circus wasn't worth his time anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Not defending the situation and how they have handled it but it just figures that when we go to hire a HC it just so happens that it ends up being a year where all these top attractive teams fire their coaches right in the middle of our search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betrayer Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: Not defending the situation and how they have handled it but it just figures that when we go to hire a HC it just so happens that it ends up being a year where all these top attractive teams fire their coaches right in the middle of our search. Reports are that Monty is simply planning to take a year off, but I guess we'll see if maybe he was just holding out for a different team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 58 minutes ago, Betrayer said: Reports are that Monty is simply planning to take a year off, but I guess we'll see if maybe he was just holding out for a different team. he's still getting paid by phoenix, so he'll probably just chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 Kevin Ollie IG post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betrayer Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Saying goodbye to his old job at OTE pretty much tells you he’s going to be the coach. The other candidates where underwhelming, but this is disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 Seems to be a few reports that the Pistons haven't totally given up on Monty Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 The Pistons have always been a leaky boat when it comes to internal issues. Anything that can convey a sense of conflict gets out. As an organization... They've always seemed to thrive on drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betrayer Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Ollie wasn't interviewed for any other head coaching jobs. Why leave OTE if he didn't get the Pistons job? I don't see how this goes any other way unless they did something weird like hire him for a different role after he interviewed for HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Now when the team doesn't show up during the game, the arena announcer can go Ollie Ollie oxen free and the team will show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Betrayer said: Ollie wasn't interviewed for any other head coaching jobs. Why leave OTE if he didn't get the Pistons job? I don't see how this goes any other way unless they did something weird like hire him for a different role after he interviewed for HC. He could have just OTE is not a path to an NBA job and doing nothing might be the better option. Like an WNBA might find trying to jump to the men's game too difficulty directly from the WNBA. So a year off to network/campaign is the better choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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