Edman85 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 Now you have Skubal tonight and three games against the spiraling ATH. The losing streak had me wanting to blow it all up, but I wake up and check the playoff odds and standings and think it won't take much. Cleveland losing a bunch of games helps. 2 Quote
Edman85 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 9 hours ago, NorthWoods said: If you upgrade the pen you probably wreck your compensation picks I just don't see them doing that. Keeping Skubal and adding salary Flags fly forever. Compensation picks become Christin Stewart. 3 Quote
casimir Posted July 29 Posted July 29 1 minute ago, Edman85 said: Flags fly forever. Compensation picks become Christin Stewart. That's a copywritable quote right there. Quote
romad1 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 11 minutes ago, Edman85 said: Now you have Skubal tonight and three games against the spiraling ATH. The losing streak had me wanting to blow it all up, but I wake up and check the playoff odds and standings and think it won't take much. Cleveland losing a bunch of games helps. I just want to keep hope alive. Quote
NorthWoods Posted July 29 Posted July 29 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: Flags fly forever. Compensation picks become Christin Stewart. No argument. I've been optimistic when others gave up hope but this year, this team I just don't feel it. I might feel different after the deadline. I was one of the few predicting playoffs in August of 24: 1 Quote
NorthWoods Posted July 29 Posted July 29 I don't love any of these deals..... https://www.si.com/mlb/tigers/five-realistic-tarik-skubal-trade-packages-baseball-trade-values-simulator Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 29 Posted July 29 7 minutes ago, NorthWoods said: I don't love any of these deals..... https://www.si.com/mlb/tigers/five-realistic-tarik-skubal-trade-packages-baseball-trade-values-simulator I would probably take the Dodgers or the Rays one. Fangraphs just did a redo of the evaluation for the Dodgers system and Hope and Root are both 50FV and Sernowski is 45+. Bodine is just an on-base machine who has power but doesn't strike out but another catcher in this system feels like overkill and Hopkins would slot right into the MLB rotation. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/trade-deadline-prospect-guide-los-angeles-dodgers/ Quote
NorthWoods Posted July 29 Posted July 29 25 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said: I would probably take the Dodgers or the Rays one. Fangraphs just did a redo of the evaluation for the Dodgers system and Hope and Root are both 50FV and Sernowski is 45+. Bodine is just an on-base machine who has power but doesn't strike out but another catcher in this system feels like overkill and Hopkins would slot right into the MLB rotation. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/trade-deadline-prospect-guide-los-angeles-dodgers/ You know more on prospects than I so you're probably right. If they make a deal I've been hoping for 2 OF prospects to increase the odds we hit on one. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 38 minutes ago, NorthWoods said: I don't love any of these deals..... https://www.si.com/mlb/tigers/five-realistic-tarik-skubal-trade-packages-baseball-trade-values-simulator Those all suck. The Rays deal is ok, but we don’t NEED Bodine like we need an OF answer. Im not high on Hope either—there are two other Dodgers OFs I’d much rather see us get if it’s them. Quote
oblong Posted July 29 Posted July 29 I’m on vacation so kind of checked out but since when are playoff teams and seeding established in late July? Verlander being the last active player in his 2017 trade is another data point. You don’t give up a season just because you are afraid of a player leaving. 1 Quote
lordstanley Posted July 29 Posted July 29 3 hours ago, Edman85 said: Now you have Skubal tonight and three games against the spiraling ATH. The losing streak had me wanting to blow it all up, but I wake up and check the playoff odds and standings and think it won't take much. Cleveland losing a bunch of games helps. The Tigers, White Sox and Guardians all went 1-3 in the past 4 games, so all it really meant was the Tigers treading water for a few days. Did lose a bit of ground to Minnesota and Houston. Quote
Nate7474 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 16 minutes ago, lordstanley said: The Tigers, White Sox and Guardians all went 1-3 in the past 4 games, so all it really meant was the Tigers treading water for a few days. Did lose a bit of ground to Minnesota and Houston. Problem is treading water is just lost opportunity that makes the percentage of remaining games you must win go up and it starts to get to an unrealistic number pretty quickly. Quote
papalawrence Posted July 29 Posted July 29 (edited) 4 hours ago, casimir said: They're 0.5 GB in the wildcard and 2.0 GB in the division. They should be trying to make the playoffs. I live in Minneapolis and yes, the Twins need to try and get in this year. The near total sell-off last season left a lot of fans around here bewildered and ticked off. To sell again while knocking on the post season door would only agitate the fan base more Edited July 29 by papalawrence Quote
papalawrence Posted July 29 Posted July 29 23 minutes ago, Nate7474 said: Problem is treading water is just lost opportunity that makes the percentage of remaining games you must win go up and it starts to get to an unrealistic number pretty quickly. Yeah, they have to beat the under .500 clubs. It's crazy that their record is better vs over .500 teams. I'm having 1 run losses in my nightmares. And for some reason Les Moss is the manager in those dreams 1 Quote
SoCalTiger Posted July 29 Posted July 29 4 hours ago, casimir said: You're killin' me. I'of been up all night waiting for the official news. Sorry but I am just a fan and as such often wrong but I will be surprised he takes the mound all the same. Quote
Tenacious D Posted July 29 Posted July 29 16 minutes ago, Edman85 said: So, you’re saying there’s a chance? Quote
Tiger337 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: So, you’re saying there’s a chance? A much better chance than 2024. 2 Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 29 Posted July 29 4 hours ago, Edman85 said: Flags fly forever. Compensation picks become Christin Stewart. Or Kevin McGonigle but point taken Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 29 Posted July 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said: I would probably take the Dodgers or the Rays one. Fangraphs just did a redo of the evaluation for the Dodgers system and Hope and Root are both 50FV and Sernowski is 45+. Bodine is just an on-base machine who has power but doesn't strike out but another catcher in this system feels like overkill and Hopkins would slot right into the MLB rotation... On Hope: Replace him with one of Sirota or Eduardo Quintero (further away... but I think I'm getting on board his bandwagon as he is similar to Sirota with high hit, high OBP, and enough power to make it work...), and then say yes. On Bodine: I believe his catching acumen is supposed to be superior to Valencia, Briceno, or Liranzo. I would like adding Bodine very much as he immediately becomes our #2 catcher to Dingler (I mean, when/ if he gets to MLB...), and as a high hit/ high OBP/ some power switch-hitter... I think he gets LOTS of play, even aside from backup catcher. I'm very high on him and if the Tigers were to get him, I see a high amount of play, and a high level of play, for him on our team. Just my 2 cents. Edited July 29 by 1984Echoes Quote
KL2 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 2 hours ago, oblong said: I’m on vacation so kind of checked out but since when are playoff teams and seeding established in late July? Verlander being the last active player in his 2017 trade is another data point. You don’t give up a season just because you are afraid of a player leaving. i dont think its that black and white What your post leaves out is the potential of getting good players that could help in a year or five. While that is not always the outcome, that is the thought. Ok player X is goinng to leave cause i cant afford, is it the best ROI to try this year or get more bodies for a future run Quote
chasfh Posted July 29 Posted July 29 On 7/28/2026 at 9:56 AM, NorthWoods said: I wonder why they're speculating INF when we need OF? Because the Tigers are not an east coast team so ESPN doesn’t know anything about them. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted July 29 Posted July 29 23 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said: True. But with a few of these teams—namely the Rays, Brewers and Mariners….you gotta play hardball with them. Their respective GMs could significantly increase their already good shots at making a World Series and getting their organization its first ever title immortalizes the staff. You want to step up and go after the Dodgers and Yankees? Prove it. Don’t let them feel like they can buy what they need without feeling it on the back end. How many top prospects did we part with during our decade of competitiveness? That being said, you treat the Dodgers/Yankees/etc the same way, they just aren’t going to feel the pinch like teams that are economically similar to us would. Nobody would give us anything last year because we wouldn’t give up Melton or McGonigle—why should these teams get Skubal if they aren’t sending their best of the best in return? And then we heard all about how other GMs thought Harris was being tough to work with and unreasonable in his demands….ok well we have maybe the biggest trade piece in the last 20 years on the market—so let’s see how reasonable these other GMs will supposedly be when they try to buy. Gotta sack up and be aggressive in getting what we want, not settling for what we will be given. This is war. This sounds good until every one of those teams say no to emptying out the top of their system for him, and so we have to choose between getting whatever we can get, or keep him. Honest question, which would you want? Quote
NorthWoods Posted July 29 Posted July 29 1 minute ago, chasfh said: This sounds good until every one of those teams say no to emptying out the top of their system for him, and so we have to choose between getting whatever we can get, or keep him. Honest question, which would you want? If we don't get a great haul I'm all for keeping him and making a run. I may be wrong but I'm convinced there's a great haul out there. Quote
RedRamage Posted July 29 Posted July 29 AJ should pull Skubal in the 4th inning just to mess with everyone. Quote
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