JackMorrisStache Posted August 1 Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, holygoat said: Clark is baseball maxing I see what you did there. 1 Quote
holygoat Posted August 1 Posted August 1 13 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Imagine being an Athletics fan salivating over the thought of a bullpen game versus the Tigers crap bullpen and then losing 2-1. Isn't that how this usually works? Even better. 2 Quote
Tenacious D Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Let’s not forget that Baez is raking since coming off the DL. 13-1 in the 9th. Can the bullpen hold? Quote
holygoat Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Just now, Tenacious D said: Let’s not forget that Baez is raking since coming off the DL. 13-1 in the 9th. Can the bullpen hold? They have so far! Quote
casimir Posted August 1 Author Posted August 1 20 minutes ago, holygoat said: Clark is baseball maxing Hat tip to you, sir. 1 Quote
lordstanley Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Turns out a 12-run lead is bullpen-proof. Tigers win! 15-9 record for the month of July to end it 6 games under .500 after starting it 12 games under .500 Started July 9.0 games behind Chicago; ended it 6.5 games back. Started July 7.0 games behind Cleveland; ended it 3.5 games back. Started July 3.5 games behind Minnesota; they've now 3.0 games behind Minnesota but with the Twins leading the Mariners in the 8th tonight. 1 1 Quote
IdahoBert Posted August 1 Posted August 1 I got sidetracked around the third and only just now checked in holy cow. I missed a lot. Got my lucky 13 runs. Quote
Tenacious D Posted August 1 Posted August 1 19 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Turns out a 12-run lead is bullpen-proof. Tigers win! 15-9 record for the month of July to end it 6 games under .500 after starting it 12 games under .500 Started July 9.0 games behind Chicago; ended it 6.5 games back. Started July 7.0 games behind Cleveland; ended it 3.5 games back. Started July 3.5 games behind Minnesota; they've now 3.0 games behind Minnesota but with the Twins leading the Mariners in the 8th tonight. Any chance we can add a few extra months to the regular season? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 who knows how long it can go on, but as long as Baez, Valencia, Clark, and Malgeiri all contribute this is a very tough line-up. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 The bullpen is good as long as the starter is one of them Quote
Tigermojo Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Clark, McGonigle and Greene can all hit lefties so they can stay in the lineup. Quote
IdahoBert Posted August 1 Posted August 1 You know, I don’t care how this season shakes out. Who comes or who goes. I just enjoy the team. I enjoy the possibilities, I lament the failures. Things are more interesting with them than without them. It was great to watch those last two innings after the fact on mlb.com. Baseball is a mixture of poetry, of war, of commerce, and it always has been. It’s amazing how much fun and drama and angst and joy this spectacle can arouse. And seeing the results of the Harris era with these young guys breaking into the show is really gratifying. 1 Quote
papalawrence Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Still sitting at 3.5 out of WC. Even without scooby it could happen Quote
Sports_Freak Posted August 1 Posted August 1 6 hours ago, casimir said: You’re right that the bullpen is a weakness and needs addressed and that Clark doesn’t address that directly. However, it doesn’t mean that Clark is not ready for promotion and/or that his play in CF and at the plate cannot help the Tigers. Very true. We also need a true right fielder. 4 rookies in the game last night. At one point, 5. That's a lot for any team to absorb. And while the bullpen pitched well, it was the Athletics. I enjoy the win but it's basically the same bunch that basically cost us the playoffs this season. Building a good bullpen is so incredibly hard and possibly the most important part of a team. Starting pitchers rarely go very deep into games, leaving close games reliant on the pen. It's failed this Tiger team this season, so far. Still time for another epic comeback. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted August 1 Posted August 1 9 hours ago, Tigermojo said: Detroit is 28th in center field WAR and 22nd in reliever WAR. Yeah, I get that. CF has been a problem ever since Javy went down. RF doesnt seem much better. But....according to the MLB standings, the Tigers have an expected win-loss record of 60-50. 8 games better than their actual record. Maybe a league average CF and RF would have scored enough runs to offset their putrid bullpen? I dont know, maybe a couple of games. I just think our horrible bullpen has more to do, directly with losses, than our weak CF production. Who knows what coulda been....I'm just saying that, while having Max up here and playing is exciting, he's not really the solution to this teams main problem. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) Torkelson has gone 24 PA without a K. I'd be surprised if that is not a personal record for him. Edited August 1 by gehringer_2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: Yeah, I get that. CF has been a problem ever since Javy went down. RF doesnt seem much better. But....according to the MLB standings, the Tigers have an expected win-loss record of 60-50. 8 games better than their actual record. Maybe a league average CF and RF would have scored enough runs to offset their putrid bullpen? I dont know, maybe a couple of games. I just think our horrible bullpen has more to do, directly with losses, than our weak CF production. Who knows what coulda been....I'm just saying that, while having Max up here and playing is exciting, he's not really the solution to this teams main problem. no argument with any of this, but consider that a weak bullpen will blow fewer 3 run leads than 1 run leads. If you can't pitch, scoring more runs and catching more outs is the next best thing. Quote
Tiger337 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) 28 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: no argument with any of this, but consider that a weak bullpen will blow fewer 3 run leads than 1 run leads. If you can't pitch, scoring more runs and catching more outs is the next best thing. Yes, good hitting solves a lot of problems. If they hit, the bullpen will still hurt them, but not as much. Edited August 1 by Tiger337 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) Javy is so extraodinary at this because he's doing a 'swipe catch' of the throw, so the glove is already in motion toward the runner as he catches the ball. Edited August 1 by gehringer_2 1 Quote
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