Tiger337 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Archie said: Cortez's personality and thoughts are too ugly to offset anything physically. She doesn't have beautiful thoughts like MTG. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 10 hours ago, Archie said: I think she does bring value when she speaks up to Cortez and her group. She says things that need to be said that everyone else is afraid to say. She's kind of like the hockey enforcer of the Republican house. She probably won't be reelected since she most likely won't run unopposed again. Democrats will spend a fortune to get rid of her so the Cortez can have the floor again without interruption. MTG brings no value at all to politics. She is an ignorant jerk, an absolute disgrace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: It wouldn’t be Trumpism without pure 100% Hypocrisy. FTFY. Edited October 22, 2021 by 1984Echoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Archie said: MTG's personality, politics and thoughts are too FUGLY. FTFY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 What value does MTG bring when she belittles the holocaust or talks about Jewish space lasers? Is that valuable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Seriously, the problem with these goddamned no-brained wrestling fans thinking that bullshit works in politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, romad1 said: Seriously, the problem with these goddamned no-brained wrestling fans thinking that bullshit works in politics. I will feel a hell of a lot better when it can be proved that it doesn’t work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, chasfh said: I will feel a hell of a lot better when it can be proved that it doesn’t work. QFT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I mean, Hitler won his election...so...yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, romad1 said: I mean, Hitler won his election...so...yeah Didn't get a majority though did he? Another argument for ranked preference voting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 9 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Didn't get a majority though did he? Another argument for ranked preference voting... Following along with Germany's most recent election(which requires coalition forming in order to set up a government), it is hard not to come to the conclusion our system for electing a President is pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Especially since when the founders set up the system voting was restricted to landowners only. Followed by the belief that “leaders” were best to judge. Also there were no political parties. That went out the window with Thomas Jefferson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 9 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Didn't get a majority either, did he? Another argument for ranked preference voting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, mtutiger said: Following along with Germany's most recent election(which requires coalition forming in order to set up a government), it is hard not to come to the conclusion our system for electing a President is pretty bad. And it will never change because many people equate our founders with Moses getting the tablets from Mt Sinai. They truly believe it was divinely inspired and to go against that is to go against God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Josh should seek professional help... the voices in his head appear to be getting to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 5 hours ago, oblong said: And it will never change because many people equate our founders with Moses getting the tablets from Mt Sinai. They truly believe it was divinely inspired and to go against that is to go against God. Yup. When the past reaches a certain distance, it seems there is always a tendency to idealize it into a realm of legend. In the Renaissance Europeans did it to the Greeks, who did leave some nice stuff behind but really didn't have all that great a society, in the Far East there were the legends of the "Yellow Emperor" that held everything in current civilization was but a failed effort to recapture the glories of the past. Now we are doing it with our own history. Mohammed's Muslim conquerors had this figured out - they might have been the 1st empire to practice historical 'cleansing' of the past in areas they won. And then today we have the irony of today's Muslim radicals idealizing and trying to recapture their own now ancient history. It's a good thing the human species has high sex drive because as a group we sure would never have survived based on our average intelligence. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buddha Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 16 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Yup. When the past reaches a certain distance, it seems there is always a tendency to idealize it into a realm of legend. In the Renaissance Europeans did it to the Greeks, who did leave some nice stuff behind but really didn't have all that great a society, in the Far East there were the legends of the "Yellow Emperor" that held everything in current civilization was but a failed effort to recapture the glories of the past. Now we are doing it with our own history. Mohammed's Muslim conquerors had this figured out - they might have been the 1st empire to practice historical 'cleansing' of the past in areas they won. And then today we have the irony of today's Muslim radicals idealizing and trying to recapture their own now ancient history. It's a good thing the human species has high sex drive because as a group we sure would never have survived based on our average intelligence. every argument about the past is actually an argument about the present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 16 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Yup. When the past reaches a certain distance, it seems there is always a tendency to idealize it into a realm of legend. In the Renaissance Europeans did it to the Greeks, who did leave some nice stuff behind but really didn't have all that great a society, in the Far East there were the legends of the "Yellow Emperor" that held everything in current civilization was but a failed effort to recapture the glories of the past. Now we are doing it with our own history. Mohammed's Muslim conquerors had this figured out - they might have been the 1st empire to practice historical 'cleansing' of the past in areas they won. And then today we have the irony of today's Muslim radicals idealizing and trying to recapture their own now ancient history. It's a good thing the human species has high sex drive because as a group we sure would never have survived based on our average intelligence. I always wondered when the historical grievance clock runs out. Clearly plenty of people are angry about bad things that happened in their area in the past because of the Turks or the Russians or the British. When does that ebb? The Uzbek (basically) Mogul empire deindustrialized India leaving it ripe for takeover by the East India company. Do modern Indians have grievances against Uzbeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, buddha said: every argument about the past is actually an argument about the present. I like that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, romad1 said: I always wondered when the historical grievance clock runs out. Clearly plenty of people are angry about bad things that happened in their area in the past because of the Turks or the Russians or the British. When does that ebb? The Uzbek (basically) Mogul empire deindustrialized India leaving it ripe for takeover by the East India company. Do modern Indians have grievances against Uzbeks? A friend who was quite a far flung traveler was in Athens a number of years ago - was in a cab and the cabby was running down the 'north siders'. My friend thought he'd needle a little and asked him what he'd think if his daughter announced she was going to marry a Theban, and the guy almost threw my friend out of the cab, so call it ~2 millennia+.... maybe. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 The Sunni-Shia split is how many years old? Around a 1,000? And they can't get past it. I'm sure there are numerous examples... and several that break past 1,000 years. I don't remember the Thebes-southern Greece argument... the Greek city-states had so many... Athens-Sparta, Macedonia-Greece, etc., etc... I sort of remember anti-Thebes from Athens but my memory chips are losing data quickly so I am forgetting more than I can hold onto / or take on new knowledge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 And yet, my family on both sides of the Atlantic are trying to piece together a family tree past 1815 when we have decent public records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 More conservative rioting Barricades don't apply to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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