mtutiger Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Big "Ellis from Die Hard" energy here.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Big "Ellis from Die Hard" energy here.. What a goddamn creep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Big "Ellis from Die Hard" energy here.. Please, lets reward the aggressor so that Xi knows he can be rewarded too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 What a tool. I've never heard of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 This guy is a trip He's basically working against the MOD at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 hours ago, romad1 said: This guy is a trip He's basically working against the MOD at this point. Prigozhin captures Russian Lieutenant Colonel... Although Wagner had been attacked by this LC so... More like they are firing at each other (pot-shots, not a full scale war): https://www.yahoo.com/news/prigozhin-alleges-wagner-mercenaries-captured-082400319.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 22 hours ago, romad1 said: Please, lets reward the aggressor so that Xi knows he can be rewarded too. He has some legitimate points, but 1) I don't see Ukraine or even Europe agreeing to what he's saying even if we pulled our military support and 2) he's refusing to look at the benefits in terms of the deterrent China has to see in terms of world support for Ukraine. There is an argument that Xi would be fine being a bit more isolated and dealing with that fallout if he were to go after Taiwan, but I don't think he would want to deal with it at the point of what Xi is seeing Russia deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Just now, ewsieg said: He has some legitimate points, but 1) I don't see Ukraine or even Europe agreeing to what he's saying even if we pulled our military support and 2) he's refusing to look at the benefits in terms of the deterrent China has to see in terms of world support for Ukraine. There is an argument that Xi would be fine being a bit more isolated and dealing with that fallout if he were to go after Taiwan, but I don't think he would want to deal with it at the point of what Xi is seeing Russia deal with. And to further this, Taiwan is definitely more important to the US than Ukraine, so if we're going to support Ukraine like we are, Xi can only imagine what we'll do for Taiwan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ewsieg said: And to further this, Taiwan is definitely more important to the US than Ukraine, Taiwan. I wouldn't go that far. I don't think the situations are exactly comparable - sort of apples and oranges in many ways, but overall I don't think you can say the outcome in Ukraine will be any less important to the future of the entire EU and thus to the US than what happens in Taiwan. At the purely strategic level, the essentially independent status of Taiwan actually doesn't do anything now to limit the rest of China's strategic reach in the Asia/Pacific. You can compare it to the impact Cuba has had on the US's international reach. Taiwan's importance strategically lies in the one technological niche they dominate, and knowledge and technology are both transient and mobile in the modern world. If the Chinese move on Taiwan it's a pretty good bet that the unique expertise at TSMC will have long fled the scene before any regent of Xi's sits in Taipei. OTOH, the status of Ukraine will completely swing every aspect of the political and security situation in the Europe and the Atlantic. The US cannot see either situation as an excuse to beggar the other. Edited June 5, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: not necessarily. I don't think the situations are exactly comparable - sort of apples and oranges in many ways, but overall I don't think you can say the outcome in Ukraine will be any less important to the future of the entire EU and thus to the US than what happens in Taiwan. At the strategic level, the semi-independence of Taiwan actually doesn't do anything now to limit the rest of China's strategic reach in the Asia/Pacific. Taiwan's importance strategically lies moslty in the one technological niche they dominate, and knowledge and technology are both transient and mobile in the modern world. OTOH, the status of Ukraine will completely swing every aspect of the political and security situation in the Europe and the Atlantic. The US cannot see either situation as an excuse to beggar the other. But politicians who are beholden to Victor Orban's political philosophy and who view Putin's gay-bashing Russia as the bastion of Christianity are sure hoping to beggar those Jews and Romani who run Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 This can't possibly be true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 One of the things that Vladdie probably did Both sides are pointing fingers but the dam was controlled by Russia at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Zerohedge says the counter-offensive has failed. Shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Nothing says the advance of a vengeful, liberating army like this music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, romad1 said: Zerohedge says the counter-offensive has failed. Shocking. Is there consensus on if it has even started yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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digitalpigsmuggler Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History Quote Since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine last year, the Ukrainian government and NATO allies have posted, then quietly deleted, three seemingly innocuous photographs from their social media feeds: Quote In each photograph, Ukrainians in uniform wore patches featuring symbols that were made notorious by Nazi Germany and have since become part of the iconography of far-right hate groups. Quote But some members of these groups have been fighting Russia and are now part of the broader military structure. Some are regarded as national heroes. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 People are quick to point fingers. But folks did the same thing as Nordstream. Ukraine was almost certainly behind that. Quote The Russian defence minister, Sergei Shoigu, accused Ukraine on Tuesday of blowing up the Nova Kakhovka dam as part of a plan to redeploy units from the nearby Kherson region for operations against Russian forces. Reuters reports that a Russian defence ministry statement signed by Shoigu said the dam breach and resultant flooding were designed to prevent Russia from attacking near Kherson, while allowing Ukraine to “transfer units and equipment from the Kherson front to the area of offensive operations”. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/jun/06/russia-ukraine-war-live-dam-near-kherson-blown-up-by-russian-forces-ukrainian-military-says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Hundreds of Ukrainians Killed in Failed Offensive, Russia Claims Quote Russia on Monday claimed to have stopped a “major” Ukrainian attack over the weekend that allegedly left hundreds of Kyiv’s soldiers dead. The Russian Defense Ministry announced on its Telegram channel that the Sunday morning Quote The enemy did not achieve its tasks, it had no success.” Moscow claimed “more than 250” Ukrainian personnel, 16 tanks, and other equipment were lost in the failed operation. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-begs-judge-to-toss-another-e-jean-carroll-defamation-case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) Ukraine even discussed blowing up this Dam. This is Nordstream all over again. Lamestream media sucks. Edited June 6, 2023 by digitalpigsmuggler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Not Russian territory, not a Russian nuclear plant, and not Russian people. Other than that, the meme is spot on. Posting crap that bolsters the war criminal invaders propaganda, what a pathetic waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said: Not Russian territory, not a Russian nuclear plant, and not Russian people. Other than that, the meme is spot on. Posting crap that bolsters the war criminal invaders propaganda, what a pathetic waste. Take it up with the New York times. Ukrainians like to wear Nazi symbols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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