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Where Do Things End With Vlad? (h/t romad1)


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1 hour ago, romad1 said:

this is just....wow

Right now getting $$ to Ukraine in far more important than either Iraq or Vietnam was at the time, and we saw what administrations did to drive public opinion then.  If an administration is not capable of at least using intelligence honestly as an adjunct to set the political conditions for necessary foreign policy, I would say they are incompetent.

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Just now, gehringer_2 said:

Right now getting $$ to Ukraine in far more important than either Iraq or Vietnam was at the time, and we saw what administrations did to drive public opinion then.  If an administration is not capable of at least using intelligence honestly as an adjunct to set the political conditions for necessary foreign policy, I would say they are incompetent.

They have used it in the past over this.  Their leak prior to Feb 2022 was critical to rallying the response to Putin's offensive and their selective release of NTM intel to Ukraine was key to getting Ukraine ready for it. 

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On 2/11/2024 at 11:08 AM, Tigeraholic1 said:

As someone who has witnessed lives lost in the name of freedom. Fuc k this guy. How could any American vote for this platform?

Trump attracts weak minds, and weak minds have votes.

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20 hours ago, 1776 said:

An apolitical statement:

We already have a huge national security threat-the southern border. 

This is, practically by definition, not an apoltiical statement.

Here's a follow-on statement:

The situation at the southern border is no more an "invasion" than the Freedom Riders going to Mississippi in 1961 were an invasion. And yet ...

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WSJ-

KYIV—Ukraine’s top military-intelligence officer said Russian invasion forces in his country are using thousands of Starlink satellite internet terminals, and that the network has been active in occupied parts of Ukraine for “quite a long time.” 

Lt. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov’s comments in an interview suggest that Russia is starting to acquire Starlink terminals, made by Elon Musk’s SpaceX, at a scale that could cut into a major Ukrainian battlefield advantage. Ukraine’s government said last year that around 42,000 terminals are used by the military, hospitals, businesses and aid organizations.

Starlink, which is more secure than cell or radio signals, is considered so vital to Ukrainian operations that the Pentagon struck a deal with SpaceX last year to help fund access for Kyiv’s forces. Up to now, Russian forces have had no similarly secure communications system.

Russian private firms buy the terminals off intermediaries who pass off purchases as for personal use and deliver the equipment to Russia via neighboring countries, including former Soviet republics, Budanov said. Russian army units down to company level were seeking to acquire Starlink terminals, often by collecting money for the purchases, he said.

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2 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Navalny is a message to us if the guy who loves strongmen gets back into the White House.

It also says a lot about the state of mind of people (or candidates) who live in this country who "respect" or even "admire" this Russian government. 

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30 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

It also says a lot about the state of mind of people (or candidates) who live in this country who "respect" or even "admire" this Russian government. 

Many on the RW always had a power fetish.  It comes from being potty trained too early or something.   I used to be sickened by people sitting around listening to NCO's talk about meting out punishment to their troops like it was funny to them. 

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33 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Many on the RW always had a power fetish.  It comes from being potty trained too early or something.   I used to be sickened by people sitting around listening to NCO's talk about meting out punishment to their troops like it was funny to them. 

I think it might have something more to do with constant corporal punishment, but that’s just a hypothesis.

Well, maybe more than a hypothesis:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/great-kids-great-parents/201508/physical-punishment-and-violence

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14 hours ago, 1776 said:

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KYIV—Ukraine’s top military-intelligence officer said Russian invasion forces in his country are using thousands of Starlink satellite internet terminals, and that the network has been active in occupied parts of Ukraine for “quite a long time.” 

Damned if you don't, damned if you do.  Ukraine was pissed that Starlink wasn't allowing it's use in occupied Ukraine.  They apparently open it up and now it's painted like it's Starlink's fault because Russia has taken advantage of it.

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1 hour ago, GoBlue23 said:

Harris is scheduled to give remarks on Munich soon.  Will be interesting to see what she has to say on this news. 

edit:  Well that was disappointing.  She said that the USA is still working to confirm the news and that if true, Russia is responsible, that it's a sign of Putin's brutality and that the USA will have more to say.

Disappointing, but probably the correct thing to say at this time.

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4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

No, sorry Mike. There is no room for YOU with the Putin apologists running the Republican party. Be nice if you were smart enough to figure that out.

This is how you do it...

These anodyne "there's no room" type statements, OTOH, simply just ignore reality. We have a lot of apologists for this regime in the country, and in Congress. Stop pretending otherwise.

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4 hours ago, GoBlue23 said:

Harris is scheduled to give remarks on Munich soon.  Will be interesting to see what she has to say on this news. 

edit:  Well that was disappointing.  She said that the USA is still working to confirm the news and that if true, Russia is responsible, that it's a sign of Putin's brutality and that the USA will have more to say.

Fox news reporter gives Harris a good review

 

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29 minutes ago, 1776 said:

I felt like this was going to be the outcome when they moved Navalny recently. 

I suspect the thought was let's hide him far away.  Hope folks ignore him and if so, he's free to rot forever.  If folks keep bringing him up, then we just bite the bullet and deal with the fallout and hope it blows over quick.

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20 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

I suspect the thought was let's hide him far away.  Hope folks ignore him and if so, he's free to rot forever.  If folks keep bringing him up, then we just bite the bullet and deal with the fallout and hope it blows over quick.

Also easier for Putin's private agents to operate freely in regions far flung from the regular bureaucracy. There are still people in Russia who try to play by the rules so just easier where all the local guards may be Asian conscripts who don't care or know about the political infighting between 'great'  (i.e. European)  Russians.

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28 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

could be related to Tucker's visit as well. "westerners, do you think this is a step to some normalization? Hell no. Just watch me now."

or possible Putin just stubbed his toe and decided to kill Navalny today.

what a POS:

 

You may have something with the timing. Putin loves to embarrass his client guests like Tucker - force them into compromising themselves even deeper in his defense.  it's another  show of dominance for him.

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