buddha Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: What happened to Jakub Vrana. He fell as quickly as Ned did. what was that rick james said about cocaine? i dont know what happened with vrana, but i have a suspicion his problems come from off the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 IMO I think it was a question of philosophy. Vrana's was different from Lalonde's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: IMO I think it was a question of philosophy. Vrana's was different from Lalonde's... you dont put someone in that program because they dont play defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I hope Stevie doesn't know that I'm a good ice skater. He would trade me for a 47th round pick in 2090. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, buddha said: you dont put someone in that program because they dont play defense. HaHa - true. But still there was some disconnect when he came back because Lalonde kept referring to Vrana 'not playing in the system.' Like I said, apart from whether he was staying clean, I'm sort of drawn to the idea that Vrana wanted out from the Wings and bucking the coach was going to be quickest way to achieve that. On the one hand he risked getting sent back and left in GR, but on the other Vrana also knew that the Wings would want him in Det so they could move him and get some kind of value back. Edited March 3, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, buddha said: you dont put someone in that program because they dont play defense. I'm not talking about the program. I was talking about the reason to trade him. I didn't mean to tie two things together without an explanation but... I guess I did. As for the off-ice problems and the program... sure, yes... But, again... as for the trade... I don't think the trade was due to the off-the-ice issues as much as the philosophical differences. (Ooops, I did it again). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Imagine being the guy who shows up at LCA in a Vrana jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 only had to sim it 27 times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 Maybe a plus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 hours ago, slothfacekilla said: Maybe a plus? Call up Johansson or Edvinsson and see if we get some addition by subtraction there... that'll answer that question. Although we might get both subtraction (toughness and experience) as well as addition (skill and athleticism/ speed). Although I watched a recent Griffins game and my way too uninformed conclusion is that Edvinsson will initially struggle in the NHL. I think he has to fill out some and gain some strength in his legs before he hits Seider's level up here... He's got great length and reach so he has an advantage there... and can control the puck and make the outlet passes, etc... he's doing great down in GR it looks like... but I think against NHL speed and strength he's going to suffer. And it looks like he's still trying to get acclimated, coordination-wise, to his gangly body. There is definitely high-end skill there... but he needs to add strength and better body control/ balance IMO. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Call up Johansson or Edvinsson and see if we get some addition by subtraction there... that'll answer that question. Although we might get both subtraction (toughness and experience) as well as addition (skill and athleticism/ speed). Although I watched a recent Griffins game and my way too uninformed conclusion is that Edvinsson will initially struggle in the NHL. I think he has to fill out some and gain some strength in his legs before he hits Seider's level up here... He's got great length and reach so he has an advantage there... and can control the puck and make the outlet passes, etc... he's doing great down in GR it looks like... but I think against NHL speed and strength he's going to suffer. And it looks like he's still trying to get acclimated, coordination-wise, to his gangly body. There is definitely high-end skill there... but he needs to add strength and better body control/ balance IMO. Just my 2 cents. Given your observations, and that losses don't matter the rest of the way, I guess the question would be whether playing the harder physical game in the NHL gets him to where he need to be faster or just impedes his ability to progress. I don't know if there is any universally true answer to which way to go, we assume the Wings' brains has some kind of criteria list for deciding that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I don't think his progress will be impeded. I just think he needs to experience the NHL physical game in order to realize how much strength he will need to gain. Then the rest is up to him, and the Red Wings trainers... In fact, I'd be perfectly fine with calling him up for his 9 games, so he can see first-hand what it means to be in the NHL... I'm just sayin'... I think he'll struggle with the physicality in the NHL for a year or two, until he gets stronger. Which will also help him stay on his feet... But also... I think we'll see flashes of his tremendous talent when he's playing with the Wings... it's just that, from what I saw, there's some specific (weight & strength training) work he needs to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 Recent comments by Yzerman made me think that Johansson would get the first call if they went that way, I can't find the direct link but I swear the way he was talking after the trade deadline that was my impression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Edvinsson and Czarnik have been called up to Detroit on an emergency basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Here we GO !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Here we GO !!! ive never seen someone so excited that czarnik might play... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Shinzaki said: Edvinsson and Czarnik have been called up to Detroit on an emergency basis a reason to tune in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 15 hours ago, slothfacekilla said: Recent comments by Yzerman made me think that Johansson would get the first call if they went that way, I can't find the direct link but I swear the way he was talking after the trade deadline that was my impression. Good call idiot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Your president showed an amazingly sharp mind today for a man of his advanced age. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Your president showed an amazingly sharp mind today for a man of his advanced age. that's the smartest thing he's said in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Do Kenny and Edmonton finally prove the haters wrong and make it out of the West this year? Is this the year McDavid and Draisaitl finally get to a Cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 I hope not, I find their failures amusing 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 only 4 tries! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, slothfacekilla said: I hope not, I find their failures amusing 😂 Me too, but good for Kenny if they do make it. I think if they do make it all the way to the Cup it will be more to do with their two star players than anyone Kenny has added to the roster though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Me too, but good for Kenny if they do make it. I think if they do make it all the way to the Cup it will be more to do with their two star players than anyone Kenny has added to the roster though. he got them evander kane. other than that, he hasnt done too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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