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I am curious how many fans who followed the Tigers from 2017 to 2023, and watched Miggy become a below average player on an unmovable contract, would actually want the Tigers to sign Skubal to a 10 year deal. A lot of media folks are still tossing around the 10 year $400M number. I would think a 10 year contract for a 30 year old pitcher would be a stretch for almost any team and a definite no for the Tigers.

This is what the true Trump Derangement Syndrome is

I think the short contracts are good for the game. It gives a smaller market team a chance to go all in wuithout getting stuck with a contract for 10 years. Like the Tigers and Valdez.

I do not want the Tigers to sign Skubal to a 10/400 deal. It is likely the last few years could be ugly, perhaps very ugly, and the Tigers cannot risk having 40M+ in dead money on their books. That is a risk the bigger markets can take. 5 x 50 does not get it done, but I would try, and then watch him walk.

The Miggy contract was painful because of his decline and the negative impact on the team. Skubal is in his prime. There is not a Skubal trade that will make the Tigers better in 2026. The Tigers are in a position to win now. The Angels with Ohtani were in the midst of a long string of losing seasons. Huge return for one year of Skubal is a theory not based on precedent.

Typical reaction by cowards. They start a fight and cry like a bitch when you hit back. Just like the “tread on me” crowd.

I would be willing to trade Skubal for a kings ransom. Unfortunately, that is not an option. Look at the Burnes trade for the Brewers, the best player they got was Joey Ortiz, who was the 45h ranked prospect on fangraphs, and he is projected as a 2 WAR player entering his age 27 season. He's a solid player, but he is not an impact player, and not a player that meaningfully changes the outlook of your franchise over a 3-5 year period. If you have a good scouting and development organization, and don't have an incredibly cheap and deadbeat ownership, you will have no problem consistently acquiring/developing solid 2 WAR guys, missing out on a guy like that will never be what holds your team back. I checked the fangraphs top 20 prospects from 2014-2019. In that period 87 different players appeared on the lists. Of those, only 20 players had 3 or more 3+ WAR seasons during the 6 years of control. So less than 25% of top 20 prospects actually turned into consistent impact players. And the fact is you would be lucky to get a single top 20 prospect for Skubal, in all likelihood the best you'd get is two top 100 prospects, one of them probably around 50th and the second more of a back half guy. And guess what? Both of those guys are unlikely to turn out to be even average big league starters. The reality is that the Tigers would not receive a package for Skubal that will have any meaningful impact on the teams outlook for the next 6 seasons. If the Tigers trade Skubal and get one player who gives them 12 WAR over their 6 years of control, that would be an objectively successful return. Sorry, but that level of player is not hard to come by, and that is not an exciting return. I'd rather give it one more shot with Skubal, the franchises outlook over the next 6 years after this one will not change whether they trade Skubal or not.

That’s not actually her. It’s an Unknown Staffer. Next!

Like Harry Truman famously said: “The Buck Stops with the Unknown Staffer.” or something to that effect.

Also let’s not forget the Birther thing, which is a conspiracy theory rooted in nothing but racism.

2026 Detroit Tigers American League Central Evil Empire

Also, I don't think Bichette or Bregman wanted to come here. And none of us wanted Suarez to come here. Although I do think if we had gotten Valdez sooner, then guys like Bichette and Bregman would have taken us more seriously as an option.

Let's not forget the full page ad he took out calling for the death penalty for those 5 men.

If there are any maga out there that hapen to have a neighbor they refer to as “my black neighbor”, now would be a great time to reach out and make sure he knows that not all maga laugh and call him a monkey behind his back.

Skenes was paid 875K for his 6.5 WAR last year; the Pirates got a superstar performance for peanuts, and then re-allocated the money they would have had to pay a superstar pitcher right into the pockets of the owner, trotting out a bottom 5 payroll. Clearly the only solution to this problem is to limit the earning power of players, so billionaire owners can make higher profits.

Its why we all have such high insurance rates...or one of the reasons.

I think it’s dumb you lose a challenge when you win a challenge. NBA needs to fix that.

Now George and Greg will spend the rest of the game fellating the Pistons because they came back against the Wizards.

Hao-Yu Lee on Team Taiwan (I refuse to call it Chinese Taipei) in the WBC.

Some think 32 is between 30 and 40.

I truely believe he has no intellect. He does have a certain kind of smarts which allows him to manipulate people to no end, but his intellect (ability to use logic and analyze complex things) is pretty much nonexistent. Some people still think he's just pretending to be dumb and just messing with us, but I think what you see is what he is. That is what might save us, although we won't necessarily be safe from his handlers.

Who says the Tigers didn’t offer him a contract? Based on everything I have read, they did and he declined it. Also, based on the salary committed to Valdez, it would be very hard to believe that the Tigers offered anything less to Skubal, and they almost certainly offered him something more. But Boras seems to have pegged Skubal’s value around 10/$400 million, which is a long way from the neighborhood that Detroit was probably playing in. If 10/$400 million is the price, I don’t want Detroit to pay it, especially having witnessed the last few years of Cabrera’s contract.

Still faces misdemeanor charges for disorderly conduct and harassment. No matter what, there is still a 25% chance (according to lottery odds) he'll be sentenced to playing for the Vancouver Canucks.

and there comes a point where the "I'm not racist" defense is no longer valid if they continue supporting this guy. I'm probably there already. if you like and support this guy then yeah, I'm calling you a racist.

I love how they think it’s ok because it was supposed to be from the Lion King. There’s no way to qualify it other than It’s racist as hell.

Bottom line, this trade wasn't about Huerter. It was about moving Jaden Ivey. He clearly wasn't happy, he never improved in the areas that matter (defense, finishing, turnovers), there was no room for him to develop here, they weren't going to give him the money he wanted this offseason, and he had a 30M dollar cap hold that would have hurt the team's flexibility in the offseason. There was obviously no trade market for him, so they go what they could get before this stretched into the offseason. That said, Huerter is a better player than Jaden Ivey. It's marginal, but he is. Better finisher inside the arc, better career 3pt shooter, better playmaker, and a better defender. He's also an expiring contract, which is better for the team this offseason. They also have the potential to move from 29 to 22 in a good draft. That's actually a significant jump whether you're drafting cheap talent or using the pick as an asset in a trade. I'm disappointed they didn't trade him sooner to get more out of it, but let's be realistic. Jaden's injuries complicated the trade situation big time and every team in the league was seeing the same thing we were seeing every time Jaden stepped on the court.

I’m registering Capt. Louis Renault levels of astonishment on hearing that the Klansman-in-Chief shared something racist online and that America’s Herrenvolkisch Party and its base are okay with it.

Got anything to say John James? Nope, he needs that primary endorsement too much.

Oh, **** this caller. You didn't already know? It took all this? You're a ****ing moron.

Yes. It was Casper Wells dad. IIRC.

My impression is that Tim Cook won't be in charge much longer. I guess he really botched a lot of A.I. oriented stuff and Apple has fallen behind, but trust me - the employees there are not happy about giving trophies to the dictator.

She is incredible in the independent film Columbus. She teamed up with Parker Posey in that film and it was a tremendous cast. I spent some time in Columbus Indiana in the early 70s and it’s truly an enchanting town due to the architecture and the beautiful boulevards which make it just amazing. I never watched the film Split which she was also in because I’m the father of daughters and seeing young women terrorized is simply a place I can’t go.

The Strategy Expert?? Didn't he say he had a secret formula that ranked players? And Dave Dombrowski was spying on him? Kinda scary...

Did I already start a Carlos Monnarez appreciation thread? Its sort of evergreen for all Detroit Sports. elements of a classic CM article. take the most recent sporting event by a team, extrapolate a ridiculous subsequent prediction show no appreciation for actual Detroit sports history because he grew up as a Dodger fan Shoot hot takes like the love child of Stephen A Smith and Tony Kornheiser So, he's saying the Tigers have been humbled by the arb ruling in favor of Skubal. Ok, well. Sure.

I think that Skenes could ask for $32M in his 1st arbitration year. He is allowed to ask, but the arbitrators are supposed to focus on 1st and 2nd years salaries. If they think special circumstances merit $32M, so be it. Skenes, like Skubal and Ohtani, are unicorns. I have no problem if they are are compensated as such.

Not the biggest Jenkins fan. But I'll take him over Ball 10 times out of 10. Ball shoots 30% from the field and 27% from three. Jenkins shoots 38% from three. Jenkins has similar assist numbers on less minutes. Neither is worth mentioning on defense.

i dont know who is more upset that washington won this game, detroit or washington. beaten at home by a team TRYING TO LOSE, and duren gets hurt. this is the basketball gods smacking trajan langdon for sitting on his ass at the trade deadline.

I was an auto claims rep for 6 years...no love for the Bernstein's of the world

It was a really quick comeback though. Down 22 points in the 2nd quarter to basically tied at half? They musta heard me screaming at them. 😅

What a fascinating case. I think each side had good arguments to support their view, and on a three judge panel with fairly flexible guidance, anything can happen. I’m specifically interested in the precedent set here. The fact that nothing like this had happened before was relevant, but it’s also true that a player having the specific attributes that Skubal had was never presented to a panel. Most of the preceding cases for big money were settlements. Credit to Skubal and Boras for risking millions argue their position.

The rule violations they found had nothing to do with giving licenses to people not qualified to be on the road in a big rig. Straight from the report...........

i keep seeing all these useful backup point guards going into trade exceptions for middling second round picks or nothing prospects and all i can think of is "are we really refusing to upgrade our backup point guard because of daniss jenkins"? you can call me a hater all you - because its true - but i'd feel a lot better with a more proven commodity backing up cade against a team that is trying on defense in the playoffs.

I’m kind of liking the idea of signing Paye and drafting a pass rusher.

This will be his third position that it is his to lose.

I could see this. I think the real argument is going to be between the two sets of owners, the players union is just going to be along for the ride.