gehringer_2 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I agree. He was one of those players that I liked from the beginning, but I found myself criticizing him a lot because he became so overrated. Unforunately, my lasting image of him is his missed DP ball in extra innings in game 163. It wasn't an egregious error, but it was a play he makes 9 of 10 times. I was sure he was going to get the ball and my only question was whether he could turn two to win the game. and it turned out he was out there with a stiff back that day wasn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtrain72 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Thank gawd we have Javy, would have lost -12 - 0 without him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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casimir Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Tigermojo said: Game over. How did you know? Nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 39 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: and it turned out he was out there with a stiff back that day wasn't he? I had forgotten about that. I didn't really blame him. It is just the one play in a very frustrating game that stands out the most for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said: Miggy with an XBH! 🤯 Maybe that’s why the tornado sirens went off….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motownblues Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 And here I thought that Yzerman had a huge job job in front of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said: Miggy with an XBH! 🤯 One behind… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Why this is so demoralizing is that we just lived through an incredibly painful rebuild and the reality is that it didn’t work and we have to embark upon another one, which likely means another 4-5 years where we won’t be in playoff contention. I’m too old for this ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jz68 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 What a ridiculous way to lose. Your pitching staff manages to piece together a great effort, only giving up 3 hits and 0 walks and you can't even score a single run to have a chance at winning in extras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) they have been shut-out 5 times in the last 3 wks and scored only 1 in two other games in the same span. That's a 1 run or shut-out basically twice a week. Edited June 7, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Why this is so demoralizing is that we just lived through an incredibly painful rebuild and the reality is that it didn’t work and we have to embark upon another one, which likely means another 4-5 years where we won’t be in playoff contention. I’m too old for this ****. They've got nothing on the payroll next season. Cabrera will be done. Baez ($25M) and Rodriguez ($18M) have their opt outs. Everybody else in house is arbitration or prearbitration. The current highest salary of those folks is Austin Meadows at $4.3M. While they certainly need to improve the organization via the farm system, they've got plenty of payroll room to augment to the current MLB squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Why this is so demoralizing is that we just lived through an incredibly painful rebuild and the reality is that it didn’t work and we have to embark upon another one, which likely means another 4-5 years where we won’t be in playoff contention. I’m too old for this ****. We are too good as fans for this. Detroit deserves better baseball. Detroit can afford better baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 You look at Texas who just 2 years were picking ahead of us and now is arguably the best team in baseball and it pisses you off knowing with the right management/ownership that couldve been us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, casimir said: They've got nothing on the payroll next season. Cabrera will be done. Baez ($25M) and Rodriguez ($18M) have their opt outs. Everybody else in house is arbitration or prearbitration. The current highest salary of those folks is Austin Meadows at $4.3M. While they certainly need to improve the organization via the farm system, they've got plenty of payroll room to augment to the current MLB squad. Baez can’t opt out given the season he’s having, but even still, I agree that there should be plenty of payroll flexibility. However, if the market is as hot as it’s been the last few offseasons, we will likely have to agree to some bad contracts to get players here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Baez can’t opt out given the season he’s having, but even still, I agree that there should be plenty of payroll flexibility. However, if the market is as hot as it’s been the last few offseasons, we will likely have to agree to some bad contracts to get players here. Would you rather bad and boring...or bad and a bit watchable? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Baez can’t opt out given the season he’s having, but even still, I agree that there should be plenty of payroll flexibility. However, if the market is as hot as it’s been the last few offseasons, we will likely have to agree to some bad contracts to get players here. SS doesn't look like a good market this offseason. That had to be part of his calculus for an opt out after this season, right? There's an option with Tim Anderson, don't know if its his or Chicago's. I think there are some other 2nd tier guys that are having supbar seasons. But if Baez had a reasonable season this year, he probably stood a chance of cashing it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, casimir said: SS doesn't look like a good market this offseason. That had to be part of his calculus for an opt out after this season, right? There's an option with Tim Anderson, don't know if its his or Chicago's. I think there are some other 2nd tier guys that are having supbar seasons. But if Baez had a reasonable season this year, he probably stood a chance of cashing it in. Anderson is the same as Baez - same age, same 2022 WAR, same 2023 WAR so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Anderson is the same as Baez - same age, same 2022 WAR, same 2023 WAR so far. Yes & no. The stats might be similar, but Baez has $100M guaranteed coming to him after this season if he opts in. Anderson has a $14M team option or $1M buyout coming to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, casimir said: Yes & no. The stats might be similar, but Baez has $100M guaranteed coming to him after this season if he opts in. Anderson has a $14M team option or $1M buyout coming to him. That's true. However, If Anderson opts out, I wouldn't be interested in the Tigers signing him to a long deal (even if they didn't have Baez) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 37 minutes ago, casimir said: Yes & no. The stats might be similar, but Baez has $100M guaranteed coming to him after this season if he opts in. Anderson has a $14M team option or $1M buyout coming to him. I remember the good old days when we would have a 20 page GDT for every game. Heck, we would have a 10 page thread on days off. Interest is waning....good job, Chris, nobody cares anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I remember the good old days when we would have a 20 page GDT for every game. Heck, we would have a 10 page thread on days off. Interest is waning....good job, Chris, nobody cares anymore. Part of it is that not many people use messageboards like this anymore. I prefer this type of interaction, but there are so many social media options now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Part of it is that not many people use messageboards like this anymore. I prefer this type of interaction, but there are so many social media options now. I think this a big part of it. We also moved to a totally different board a couple years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Plus we’re all getting old and and have no energy to spend two hours complaining about something we can’t control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: Plus we’re all getting old and and have no energy to spend two hours complaining about something we can’t control That sounds exactly like a game thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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