Longgone Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 15 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Where is this Ragnow retirement talk coming from? Did one of the beat writers or NFL insiders report it? No, he said he had to take time to figure out how to deal with his various injuries, nothing about retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motown Bombers Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Looking like the Lions staff may remain unchanged. Didn't expect that going in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 In past years, it was easier to predict the Lions pick. It was so close to the top, we had our choice of top players. Not quite so easy now, we'll just have to trust the guy who has quickly drafted us to one of the best teams in the NFL. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: In past years, it was easier to predict the Lions pick. It was so close to the top, we had our choice of top players. Not quite so easy now, we'll just have to trust the guy who has quickly drafted us to one of the best teams in the NFL. 😆 Can't wait to see what kind of gold nuggies the Villan walks away with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Bucs Center Ryan Jensen just announced his retirement. Between him and the rumored Jason Kelce retirement lets hope they aren't giving Frank any ideas! Of course those guys are quite a bit older than Frank but given how beat up Frank always seems to be he may be thinking long and hard about stepping away from the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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holygoat Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Yes. Ben Johnson interviewed so poorly with WASH that the team made a point to fly out to DET to interview him a 2nd time. Sounds legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 I did a way too early mock offseason. My numbers and players are likely way off too, but I had fun doing it. Current Cap Space: $47,678,386 Lions Players Cut/Not Resigned Hal Vaitai, Jerry Jacobs, John Cominsky, Jonah Jackson, Levi Onwuzurike, Matt Nelson, Michael Badgley, Romeo Okwara, Shane Zylstra, Tracy Walker Cap Space After Cuts: $59,549,598 Lions Players Resigned Benito Jones: 2 years/$2.11 million total Brock Wright: 3 years/$4.225 million total Chase Lucas: 2 years/$1.97 million total CJ Gardner-Johnson: 1 year/$6.5 million Craig Reynolds: 1 year/$1.08 million Dan Skipper: 1 year/$1.125 million Donavan Peoples-Jones: 2 years/$3 million total Graham Glasgow: 1 year/$1.47 million Jake McQuaide: 1 year/$1,210,000 Jalen Reeves-Maybin: 1 year/$1.21 million James Houston: 2 years/$8 million total (only year 1 is guaranteed money, year two is incentives) Josh Reynolds: 1 year/$1.2 million Kayode Awosika: 1 year/$875,000 Kindle Vildor: 2 years/$3 million total Khalil Dorsey: 1 year/$875,000 Nate Sudfeld: 1 year/$1.035 million (Emergency QB) Tyson Alualu: 1 year/$1 million Will Harris: 1 year/$1.125 million Zonovan Knight: 1 year/$850,000 Salary Cap After Re-Signings: $45,981,430 Lions Players Extended Amon-Ra St. Brown: 4 year/$92 million with $61 million guaranteed (I used Deebo Samuel's contract as a comparison) Jared Goff: 4 years/$168 million total with $88 million guaranteed Cap Space After Extensions: $15,336,494 Major Free Agents Signed Danielle Hunter DE: 2 years/$23 million Stephon Gilmore CB: 1 year/$6.5 million Robert Hunt OG: 2 years/$4.5 million NFL Draft 1st: TJ Tampa/CB, 2nd: Jonah Ellis/DE, 3rd: Mike Sainristil/CB, 3rd: Roman Wilson/WR, 4th: Will Putnam/C-G, 5th: Caedan Wallace/OT, 7th: Joshua Karty/K, 7th: Evan Anderson/DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 No way Goff signs for only $168. What do you have as his cap hit for year one? They can save at least $5 million if they extend him before his roster bonus kicks in in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 If the Lions come out of free agency with Hunter and Gillmore I would be pretty happy. No need to waste $1 million on an emergency QB. I'm also not sure I would sign CJGJ. They have depth at that position. $6.5 million would be cheap and tempting. I doubt he signs for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I did a way too early mock offseason. My numbers and players are likely way off too, but I had fun doing it. Current Cap Space: $47,678,386 Lions Players Cut/Not Resigned Hal Vaitai, Jerry Jacobs, John Cominsky, Jonah Jackson, Levi Onwuzurike, Matt Nelson, Michael Badgley, Romeo Okwara, Shane Zylstra, Tracy Walker Cap Space After Cuts: $59,549,598 Lions Players Resigned Benito Jones: 2 years/$2.11 million total Brock Wright: 3 years/$4.225 million total Chase Lucas: 2 years/$1.97 million total CJ Gardner-Johnson: 1 year/$6.5 million Craig Reynolds: 1 year/$1.08 million Dan Skipper: 1 year/$1.125 million Donavan Peoples-Jones: 2 years/$3 million total Graham Glasgow: 1 year/$1.47 million Jake McQuaide: 1 year/$1,210,000 Jalen Reeves-Maybin: 1 year/$1.21 million James Houston: 2 years/$8 million total (only year 1 is guaranteed money, year two is incentives) Josh Reynolds: 1 year/$1.2 million Kayode Awosika: 1 year/$875,000 Kindle Vildor: 2 years/$3 million total Khalil Dorsey: 1 year/$875,000 Nate Sudfeld: 1 year/$1.035 million (Emergency QB) Tyson Alualu: 1 year/$1 million Will Harris: 1 year/$1.125 million Zonovan Knight: 1 year/$850,000 Salary Cap After Re-Signings: $45,981,430 Lions Players Extended Amon-Ra St. Brown: 4 year/$92 million with $61 million guaranteed (I used Deebo Samuel's contract as a comparison) Jared Goff: 4 years/$168 million total with $88 million guaranteed Cap Space After Extensions: $15,336,494 Coming off an all-pro season, I see ASB getting something between the Kupp ($26.7) and Tyreek ($30) deals that were signed last year. Deebo’s deal is now 2 seasons past and the bar has gone up. Maybe 4 years/$115m or something in that range. I also think Goff gets closer to $50m than $42m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Goff is at least 5/200. It will be interesting to see who blinks first, Dallas or Detroit. Goff is slightly younger than Dak, has been more durable throughout his career, and has better postseason success. I would think Goff would command a contract slightly larger than Dak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 2/1/2024 at 12:29 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said: Where is this Ragnow retirement talk coming from? Did one of the beat writers or NFL insiders report it? Hopefully he doesn't wait until training camp and then just Ghost the Lions. 😌 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 James Houston is an erfa, which means he's an exclusive rights free agent. He'll get a one year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhutch Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: Hopefully he doesn't wait until training camp and then just Ghost the Lions. 😌 I feel like that was indicative of the SOL - This regime has done a lot to repair that culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I think the Ragmow retirement talk stems from him talking about always being in pain and overall just how beat up he is. Then mentioned something along the lines of going to the Pro Bowl to "get away from things"(or something of that nature) gave people the thought that maybe he was doing some soul searching or something that may lead him to the conclusion that he is just tired of always being beat up and maybe it's time to hang things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said: I think the Ragmow retirement talk stems from him talking about always being in pain and overall just how beat up he is. Then mentioned something along the lines of going to the Pro Bowl to "get away from things"(or something of that nature) gave people the thought that maybe he was doing some soul searching or something that may lead him to the conclusion that he is just tired of always being beat up and maybe it's time to hang things up. NO, he was asked if he was going to need any surgery for any of his injuries, he said he was going to take some time and have them thoroughly evaluated. He said NOTHING about contemplating retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYLion Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I did a way too early mock offseason. My numbers and players are likely way off too, but I had fun doing it. Current Cap Space: $47,678,386 Lions Players Cut/Not Resigned Hal Vaitai, Jerry Jacobs, John Cominsky, Jonah Jackson, Levi Onwuzurike, Matt Nelson, Michael Badgley, Romeo Okwara, Shane Zylstra, Tracy Walker Cap Space After Cuts: $59,549,598 Lions Players Resigned Benito Jones: 2 years/$2.11 million total Brock Wright: 3 years/$4.225 million total Chase Lucas: 2 years/$1.97 million total CJ Gardner-Johnson: 1 year/$6.5 million Craig Reynolds: 1 year/$1.08 million Dan Skipper: 1 year/$1.125 million Donavan Peoples-Jones: 2 years/$3 million total Graham Glasgow: 1 year/$1.47 million Jake McQuaide: 1 year/$1,210,000 Jalen Reeves-Maybin: 1 year/$1.21 million James Houston: 2 years/$8 million total (only year 1 is guaranteed money, year two is incentives) Josh Reynolds: 1 year/$1.2 million Kayode Awosika: 1 year/$875,000 Kindle Vildor: 2 years/$3 million total Khalil Dorsey: 1 year/$875,000 Nate Sudfeld: 1 year/$1.035 million (Emergency QB) Tyson Alualu: 1 year/$1 million Will Harris: 1 year/$1.125 million Zonovan Knight: 1 year/$850,000 Salary Cap After Re-Signings: $45,981,430 Lions Players Extended Amon-Ra St. Brown: 4 year/$92 million with $61 million guaranteed (I used Deebo Samuel's contract as a comparison) Jared Goff: 4 years/$168 million total with $88 million guaranteed Cap Space After Extensions: $15,336,494 Major Free Agents Signed Danielle Hunter DE: 2 years/$23 million Stephon Gilmore CB: 1 year/$6.5 million Robert Hunt OG: 2 years/$4.5 million NFL Draft 1st: TJ Tampa/CB, 2nd: Jonah Ellis/DE, 3rd: Mike Sainristil/CB, 3rd: Roman Wilson/WR, 4th: Will Putnam/C-G, 5th: Caedan Wallace/OT, 7th: Joshua Karty/K, 7th: Evan Anderson/DT There's no way that you get Goff, Hunter and J. Reynolds for that cheap. Those numbers aren't even close IMO. Even old Gilmore will probably get more than that coming off his best season in a while. I also think Ra will get north of $100m on a 4 year deal. Edited February 5 by NYLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 https://www.mlive.com/lions/2024/02/lions-will-give-all-pro-offensive-lineman-time-space-to-mull-his-future.html?utm_campaign=grandrapidspress_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook Quote But the All-Pro center also says playing through a cavalcade of injuries this past season -- and a now-inoperable toe condition for the past three seasons -- has taken a toll on his body, and he does need time to assess the damage and plot his future. Not too much new stuff other than the fact that his toe is "inoperable." I wasn't aware of that. I kinda wonder if we did make the SB and win it all if that might not have prompted him to retire on a high note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) Good bet the Lions play in London but as the visiting team. Then again, not sure they would want a division game in London. Edited February 6 by Motown Bombers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygoat Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 10 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I did a way too early mock offseason. My numbers and players are likely way off too, but I had fun doing it. Current Cap Space: $47,678,386 Lions Players Cut/Not Resigned Hal Vaitai, Jerry Jacobs, John Cominsky, Jonah Jackson, Levi Onwuzurike, Matt Nelson, Michael Badgley, Romeo Okwara, Shane Zylstra, Tracy Walker Cap Space After Cuts: $59,549,598 Lions Players Resigned Benito Jones: 2 years/$2.11 million total Brock Wright: 3 years/$4.225 million total Chase Lucas: 2 years/$1.97 million total CJ Gardner-Johnson: 1 year/$6.5 million Craig Reynolds: 1 year/$1.08 million Dan Skipper: 1 year/$1.125 million Donavan Peoples-Jones: 2 years/$3 million total Graham Glasgow: 1 year/$1.47 million Jake McQuaide: 1 year/$1,210,000 Jalen Reeves-Maybin: 1 year/$1.21 million James Houston: 2 years/$8 million total (only year 1 is guaranteed money, year two is incentives) Josh Reynolds: 1 year/$1.2 million Kayode Awosika: 1 year/$875,000 Kindle Vildor: 2 years/$3 million total Khalil Dorsey: 1 year/$875,000 Nate Sudfeld: 1 year/$1.035 million (Emergency QB) Tyson Alualu: 1 year/$1 million Will Harris: 1 year/$1.125 million Zonovan Knight: 1 year/$850,000 Salary Cap After Re-Signings: $45,981,430 Lions Players Extended Amon-Ra St. Brown: 4 year/$92 million with $61 million guaranteed (I used Deebo Samuel's contract as a comparison) Jared Goff: 4 years/$168 million total with $88 million guaranteed Cap Space After Extensions: $15,336,494 Major Free Agents Signed Danielle Hunter DE: 2 years/$23 million Stephon Gilmore CB: 1 year/$6.5 million Robert Hunt OG: 2 years/$4.5 million NFL Draft 1st: TJ Tampa/CB, 2nd: Jonah Ellis/DE, 3rd: Mike Sainristil/CB, 3rd: Roman Wilson/WR, 4th: Will Putnam/C-G, 5th: Caedan Wallace/OT, 7th: Joshua Karty/K, 7th: Evan Anderson/DT Amon-Ra is likely to get $25m at a minimum, and Goff north of $45m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 4 hours ago, RedRamage said: https://www.mlive.com/lions/2024/02/lions-will-give-all-pro-offensive-lineman-time-space-to-mull-his-future.html?utm_campaign=grandrapidspress_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook Not too much new stuff other than the fact that his toe is "inoperable." I wasn't aware of that. I kinda wonder if we did make the SB and win it all if that might not have prompted him to retire on a high note. Which tells me the Lions need a plan B. Whether he says he's playing in too much pain and wants to still be healthy enough to enjoy his family life and retires... Or he plays 1 more year, or 2 more years (I think he's signed through 2026...): There needs to be a strong backup plan. Glasgow's a good sign I think for 2 more years. He can start, or back up, or shift as necessary, to all 3 interior O-Line spots. IMO, he's a must re-sign, I think, for a 2-year contract. For starters. In the draft, I would like a top 3 rounds interior player who can play both C and OG. If it's a high-level player: The guy can be an instant starter... at LG. Jonah Jackson is most likely leaving, so that leaves the door open for a TOP draftee (first few rounds type...) to grab a starter's spot... and if/when Ragnow hangs up his spikes, and don't forget there could be a mid-season serious injury... then it's a guy who can slide over to Center, and Awosika or Sorsdal or similar can take over at LG. It's the reason I want the highest skill level of the draftee to be able to play Center. Options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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