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6 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I did a way too early mock offseason. My numbers and players are likely way off too, but I had fun doing it.

Current Cap Space: $47,678,386

Lions Players Cut/Not Resigned

Hal Vaitai, Jerry Jacobs, John Cominsky, Jonah Jackson, Levi Onwuzurike, Matt Nelson, Michael Badgley,

Romeo Okwara, Shane Zylstra, Tracy Walker

Cap Space After Cuts: $59,549,598

Lions Players Resigned

Benito Jones: 2 years/$2.11 million total

Brock Wright: 3 years/$4.225 million total

Chase Lucas: 2 years/$1.97 million total

CJ Gardner-Johnson: 1 year/$6.5 million

Craig Reynolds: 1 year/$1.08 million

Dan Skipper: 1 year/$1.125 million

Donavan Peoples-Jones: 2 years/$3 million total

Graham Glasgow: 1 year/$1.47 million

Jake McQuaide: 1 year/$1,210,000

Jalen Reeves-Maybin: 1 year/$1.21 million

James Houston: 2 years/$8 million total (only year 1 is guaranteed money, year two is incentives)

Josh Reynolds: 1 year/$1.2 million

Kayode Awosika: 1 year/$875,000

Kindle Vildor: 2 years/$3 million total

Khalil Dorsey: 1 year/$875,000

Nate Sudfeld: 1 year/$1.035 million (Emergency QB)

Tyson Alualu: 1 year/$1 million

Will Harris: 1 year/$1.125 million

Zonovan Knight: 1 year/$850,000

Salary Cap After Re-Signings: $45,981,430

Lions Players Extended

Amon-Ra St. Brown: 4 year/$92 million with $61 million guaranteed (I used Deebo Samuel's contract as a comparison) 

Jared Goff: 4 years/$168 million total with $88 million guaranteed 

Cap Space After Extensions: $15,336,494

Major Free Agents Signed

Danielle Hunter DE: 2 years/$23 million

Stephon Gilmore CB: 1 year/$6.5 million

Robert Hunt OG: 2 years/$4.5 million

NFL Draft

1st: TJ Tampa/CB, 2nd: Jonah Ellis/DE, 3rd: Mike Sainristil/CB, 3rd: Roman Wilson/WR, 4th: Will Putnam/C-G, 5th: Caedan Wallace/OT, 7th: Joshua Karty/K, 7th: Evan Anderson/DT

There's no way that you get Goff, Hunter and J. Reynolds for that cheap. Those numbers aren't even close IMO. Even old Gilmore will probably get more than that coming off his best season in a while. I also think Ra will get north of $100m on a 4 year deal.

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But the All-Pro center also says playing through a cavalcade of injuries this past season -- and a now-inoperable toe condition for the past three seasons -- has taken a toll on his body, and he does need time to assess the damage and plot his future.

Not too much new stuff other than the fact that his toe is "inoperable." I wasn't aware of that. I kinda wonder if we did make the SB and win it all if that might not have prompted him to retire on a high note.

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10 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I did a way too early mock offseason. My numbers and players are likely way off too, but I had fun doing it.

Current Cap Space: $47,678,386

Lions Players Cut/Not Resigned

Hal Vaitai, Jerry Jacobs, John Cominsky, Jonah Jackson, Levi Onwuzurike, Matt Nelson, Michael Badgley,

Romeo Okwara, Shane Zylstra, Tracy Walker

Cap Space After Cuts: $59,549,598

Lions Players Resigned

Benito Jones: 2 years/$2.11 million total

Brock Wright: 3 years/$4.225 million total

Chase Lucas: 2 years/$1.97 million total

CJ Gardner-Johnson: 1 year/$6.5 million

Craig Reynolds: 1 year/$1.08 million

Dan Skipper: 1 year/$1.125 million

Donavan Peoples-Jones: 2 years/$3 million total

Graham Glasgow: 1 year/$1.47 million

Jake McQuaide: 1 year/$1,210,000

Jalen Reeves-Maybin: 1 year/$1.21 million

James Houston: 2 years/$8 million total (only year 1 is guaranteed money, year two is incentives)

Josh Reynolds: 1 year/$1.2 million

Kayode Awosika: 1 year/$875,000

Kindle Vildor: 2 years/$3 million total

Khalil Dorsey: 1 year/$875,000

Nate Sudfeld: 1 year/$1.035 million (Emergency QB)

Tyson Alualu: 1 year/$1 million

Will Harris: 1 year/$1.125 million

Zonovan Knight: 1 year/$850,000

Salary Cap After Re-Signings: $45,981,430

Lions Players Extended

Amon-Ra St. Brown: 4 year/$92 million with $61 million guaranteed (I used Deebo Samuel's contract as a comparison) 

Jared Goff: 4 years/$168 million total with $88 million guaranteed 

Cap Space After Extensions: $15,336,494

Major Free Agents Signed

Danielle Hunter DE: 2 years/$23 million

Stephon Gilmore CB: 1 year/$6.5 million

Robert Hunt OG: 2 years/$4.5 million

NFL Draft

1st: TJ Tampa/CB, 2nd: Jonah Ellis/DE, 3rd: Mike Sainristil/CB, 3rd: Roman Wilson/WR, 4th: Will Putnam/C-G, 5th: Caedan Wallace/OT, 7th: Joshua Karty/K, 7th: Evan Anderson/DT

Amon-Ra is likely to get $25m at a minimum, and Goff north of $45m.

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4 hours ago, RedRamage said:

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Not too much new stuff other than the fact that his toe is "inoperable." I wasn't aware of that. I kinda wonder if we did make the SB and win it all if that might not have prompted him to retire on a high note.

Which tells me the Lions need a plan B.

Whether he says he's playing in too much pain and wants to still be healthy enough to enjoy his family life and retires...

Or he plays 1 more year, or 2 more years (I think he's signed through 2026...):

There needs to be a strong backup plan.

Glasgow's a good sign I think for 2 more years. He can start, or back up, or shift as necessary, to all 3 interior O-Line spots. IMO, he's a must re-sign, I think, for a 2-year contract.

For starters.

In the draft, I would like a top 3 rounds interior player who can play both C and OG. If it's a high-level player: The guy can be an instant starter... at LG.

Jonah Jackson is most likely leaving, so that leaves the door open for a TOP draftee (first few rounds type...) to grab a starter's spot... and if/when Ragnow hangs up his spikes, and don't forget there could be a mid-season serious injury... then it's a guy who can slide over to Center, and Awosika or Sorsdal or similar can take over at LG. It's the reason I want the highest skill level of the draftee to be able to play Center. Options.

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13 minutes ago, holygoat said:

Amon-Ra is likely to get $25m at a minimum, and Goff north of $45m.

But also...

These extensions would take effect in 2025, not 2024.

So the Lions have two years to do some cap management to be able to manage the extensions to our best players...

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On 2/5/2024 at 4:40 PM, NYLion said:

There's no way that you get Goff, Hunter and J. Reynolds for that cheap. Those numbers aren't even close IMO. Even old Gilmore will probably get more than that coming off his best season in a while. I also think Ra will get north of $100m on a 4 year deal.

Hunter signed a deal last year for 1 year at $17 million but all of it was guaranteed. If you give him more years but similar guaranteed money overall I don't think it is farfetched to thing 2 @ $23 million is way off base.

I had Goff at an AAV of $42 million per year. If I am way off on Goff then are we thinking he's going to be making Joe Burrow money at an AAV of north of $50 million or more per year or $50 million per year with incentives and bonuses as apart of that number? So is Goff going to cost us 4 @ $210 million?

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Hunter held out for that contract. He was under contract from a 5 year $72 million contract he signed in 2018. The Vikings reworked the final year on his contract. No way is he taking a pay cut after a career year.

Goff is getting $50 million per. Burrow is at $55 million per. Goff is probably looking at 4/200. 

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I think Holmes can find pass-rushers in the draft. And a lower cost free agent pass-rusher or bookend DE that will be effective enough to help out Hutch & the D-Line.

It's CB that is always a problem to find a guy good enough.

The only FA I want Detroit to sign, at least as a priority where serious money is spent, is at CB. Probably $18M AAV for the top or near-top guy out there. If Sneed gets squeezed out by the Chiefs' salary cap. That's the one and only free agent priority I have. That's the guy I want.

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8 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I don’t think the Raiders would immediately say no, but I think their asking price would start at three 1sts, which is not something in the ballpark of reality.

We need to find (draft) our own Maxx Crosby.

Wasn't Crosby a 3rd rounder?

Holmes could do that.

I think I even spotted a potential Crosby floating around in the mock draft 2nd round this year... Chris Braswell seems like a Holmes/ DC type of guy...

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9 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I don’t think the Raiders would immediately say no, but I think their asking price would start at three 1sts, which is not something in the ballpark of reality.

They probably should listen but the Raiders would immediately say no.  

You used logic and in doing so broke rule #1 when talking about the Raiders.   If it makes sense to everyone else, they are probably doing something different.  

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Every GM is going to pick up the phone if any other GM calls. But no, a brand new GM of a team with a new head coach is not going to trade away his team’s leader, its best player, and one of the best players in the league, who is in his prime and under contract, to take a flyer on a trade package anchored on pick number 29. 

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12 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

a brand new GM of a team with a new head coach is not going to trade away his team’s leader, its best player, and one of the best players in the league, who is in his prime and under contract, to take a flyer on a trade package...

I've got Brad Holmes on line two saying something about Matthew Stafford?

😉 

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1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

They probably should listen but the Raiders would immediately say no.  

You used logic and in doing so broke rule #1 when talking about the Raiders.   If it makes sense to everyone else, they are probably doing something different.  

New coach...full rebuild? Draft choices are gold. Send them a few and it may entice them. At least, I can dream. The Raiders would be idiots to trade him so there's a good chance they might. 😆😆

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