Tenacious D Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 I ❤️ this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: I don't know what he's going to do with his life after baseball, but a brain with that kind of processing speed needs to find a worthwhile second career. I think whatever Javy Baez decides to do after baseball, he’s gonna be all right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 14 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: How about using that brain for pitch recognition? 😆 Ha! Maybe he missed getting the eyeball genes and the frontal lobe genes from the same set. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 16 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: Just speculation of course but it wouldn’t hurt to take some reps pre game and try in the future because he does stink in the outfield as Tork does at first. Carpenter had a better arm. So if he proves good it’s one less bad outfielder and one less poor first baseman. Isn’t multiple positions the Hinch requirement anyways ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKNIGHT Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Another solid outing for our pitchers in this game. 12 K's and only 2 BB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 18 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: And as a side note, great job by Dan Dickerson. He kept Craig under control and actually paid attention to the action. No giggling or just plain stupid discussions. I could listen to him and know there's a ball in play. Dan calls the game like it’s on radio. He mentions every pitch and outcome, and he talks baseball the entire time in between. A lot of people don’t like that. They thinks it’s too verbose. Not me. I love it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 16 minutes ago, chasfh said: Ha ha. That was good. Ok I surrender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim Cowan Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 I love Wenceel Perez, one of those guys you could follow in the DSL and the GCL, and he was a shortstop back then which made him really interesting. He stalled for a couple of years but came back and had a huge year in 2022, tailed off a wee bit last year, and one offseason genius, I forget which one, did not include him in the Tigers top 30. So whoever that guy was, Wenceel has given him, in the words of the immortal Lou Brown, a nice big sh*tburger to eat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 8 hours ago, chasfh said: Dan calls the game like it’s on radio. He mentions every pitch and outcome, and he talks baseball the entire time in between. A lot of people don’t like that. They thinks it’s too verbose. Not me. I love it. Same. I can be doing something and look when there's action. Also, for some reason, all the giggling really irritates me. I had hopes for Jason but he let's the ex-jocks run the discussions. Dan seemed to be able to control Craig...no small feat. The Tiger version of Don Cherry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 11 hours ago, Tigermojo said: More garbage defense this inning. Has Kerry Carpenter ever had a successful catch on the warning track? As far as the Perez error, Meadows kept calling and calling and calling (per the TV replay). Miscommunication that could have ended up in a collision. Not ideal at all, but, given the Urshela injury earlier in the game and Ibanez, Kreidler, and Leonard (I think) on the IL, might be best to have an error on no injuries rather than an error with possible dinged up players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 11 hours ago, kdog said: Another tie game in the late innings...we don't have enough of these. 9 of 20 games this season have been decided by 1 run. Almost 50% of games. Looking at MLB, that's a per team average of 4 out of 18 games, 22%. 41 of 162 games last season were decided by 1 run. A smidge over 25%. Per MLB team, 44 out of 162, a smidge over that other smidge, 27%. Drop that knowledge on someone today and watch their eyes glaze over with a look of.... what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 11 hours ago, Tigermojo said: Urshela right hamstring tightness. If he goes to the DL, Jace Jung anyone? Gipson-Long could go to the 60 day IL. It'll be Buddy Kennedy. You're welcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 10 hours ago, chasfh said: What a baseball-y play by Baez to keep Castro at second! That was really good. HIs offense has been awful. But he's shored up his throws to first and otherwise played defense to his standards. Add in his baserunning (I know, few and far between). If that bat could just get back to around league average.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 18 minutes ago, casimir said: Has Kerry Carpenter ever had a successful catch on the warning track? As far as the Perez error, Meadows kept calling and calling and calling (per the TV replay). Miscommunication that could have ended up in a collision. Not ideal at all, but, given the Urshela injury earlier in the game and Ibanez, Kreidler, and Leonard (I think) on the IL, might be best to have an error on no injuries rather than an error with possible dinged up players. Wenceel has played a sum total of 21 games in his career as a corner outfielder and certainly none of them were ever next to a CF with Parker's range. What do you expect to happen when you throw guys into fielding situations for which they have zero experience? Management is supposed to put players into a position to succeed. Putting a fielder into a game at world's highest level of play who probably hasn't had 50 lifetime chances at the position and expecting clean play is just ignorance. The team may have to put him there, and he may succeed there, but put the blame for the level of performance while he learns the position on the fly where it belongs. Edited April 20 by gehringer_2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 10 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: Just speculation of course but it wouldn’t hurt to take some reps pre game and try in the future because he does stink in the outfield as Tork does at first. Carpenter had a better arm. So if he proves good it’s one less bad outfielder and one less poor first baseman. Isn’t multiple positions the Hinch requirement anyways ? Leyland did this with Marcus Thames to get his bat into the lineup a bit more. I don't the current situation with Carpenter is the same as with Thames. No one is going to accuse either of average defense in the OF. Carpenter's major weakness seems to be anything around the wall, and maybe its just going backwards in general that's an issue for him. But I think he has gotten his glove up from bad to playable. And I think his bat is more of a component for this offense than Thames was back then. I like versatility. I'm just not sure that I'd mess with Carpenter right now. That seems like a spring training experiment. That might be something to consider next March when Canha leaves and if Malloy is destined for Detroit. Then maybe toy with Carpenter/Malloy at 1B to see if either can spell Torkelson at 1B. Heck, they can do that with Malloy in Toledo now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 10 hours ago, chasfh said: Dan calls the game like it’s on radio. He mentions every pitch and outcome, and he talks baseball the entire time in between. A lot of people don’t like that. They thinks it’s too verbose. Not me. I love it. I like that too. Dickerson is great to listen to when I don't have my full attention on the game which is frequent. That is required on the radio, but I also find it useful on TV. I no longer have the patience to sit and watch full games every night. When I am paying full attention, Benetti is great. When I am distracted, Dickerson is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Wenceel has played a sum total of 21 games in his career as a corner outfielder and certainly none of them were ever next to a CF with Parker's range. What do you expect to happen when you throw guys into fielding situations for which they have zero experience? Management is supposed to put players into a position to succeed. Putting a fielder into a game at world's highest level of play who probably hasn't had 50 lifetime chances at the position and expecting clean play is just ignorance. The team may have to put him there, and he may succeed there, but put the blame for the level of performance while he learns the position on the fly where it belongs. The blame goes on miscommunication. I don't know if Meadows wasn't loud enough and/or if Perez kept calling himself (didn't see that angle) and/or if Perez ignored Meadows. One of the fundamentals of playing outfield is that the CF has priority and when he calls it, he gets it. That shouldn't take too much RF experience to understand, especially for someone that has CF experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Just now, Tiger337 said: I like that too. Dickerson is great to listen to when I don't have my full attention on the game which is frequent. That is required on the radio, but I also find it useful on TV. I no longer have the patience to sit and watch full games every night. When I am paying full attention, Benetti is great. When I am distracted, Dickerson is better. If I watch, I'll usually record and then start watching some time after the game has started. I can zip through the commercials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Just now, casimir said: If I watch, I'll usually record and then start watching some time after the game has started. I can zip through the commercials. I just have mlbtv which I watch on the computer. I no longer have cable/satellite and haven't figured out the new ways to watch tv yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: I just have mlbtv which I watch on the computer. I no longer have cable/satellite and haven't figured out the new ways to watch tv yet. My guess is MLBTV doesn't allow to record and view at your leisure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 minute ago, casimir said: My guess is MLBTV doesn't allow to record and view at your leisure? I don't really want to watch a recording once I know what has already happened (and I will know because I can't help checking!). I guess I could see going back to look at highlights or checking out a young player I haven't seen a lot of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Just now, Tiger337 said: I don't really want to watch a recording once I know what has already happened (and I will know because I can't help checking!). I guess I could see going back to look at highlights or checking out a young player I haven't seen a lot of. I can usually avoid it pretty well. Usually I'm not too far behind. Last night was a bit different, but the person that could have foiled it for me knows my viewing habit and knew I'd plug into it once I was able to tune in (a few hours behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, casimir said: The blame goes on miscommunication. I don't know if Meadows wasn't loud enough and/or if Perez kept calling himself (didn't see that angle) and/or if Perez ignored Meadows. One of the fundamentals of playing outfield is that the CF has priority and when he calls it, he gets it. That shouldn't take too much RF experience to understand, especially for someone that has CF experience. I would guess the CF experience worked against him in this case. Of what little OF he has played, he's played more center, so yielding is probably not a habit. But no matter - I don't care how experienced two OFs are, until they play next to each other for a while and learn each other's tendencies speed, call style, this kind of thing will *always* happen. There is a trust level that develops. In this case, Parker did pull off but Wenceel probably isn't sure and is still spooked. I'm just saying it's not really the players' fault when you put them in situations they've never worked through. And putting them out there may still have been what the team needed to do, that's not the point either. My point is just not to hammer the player for a confluence of circumstances that put them in a position where that kind of breakdown can be expected. Edited April 20 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: I don't really want to watch a recording once I know what has already happened (and I will know because I can't help checking!). I guess I could see going back to look at highlights or checking out a young player I haven't seen a lot of. I like the condensed games on MLBTV. About 9 minutes and you see parts of almost every inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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