gehringer_2 Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, microline133 said: Hitting for power in the FSL as a teenager would be a momentous achievement. one report I read along the way said Clark's frame was already nearly maxed out (no pun intended). I assume that kind of assessment entails a fair amount of guesswork given all the genetic variability in the population, but FWIW I suppose if that person was right he would be closer to his power than a kid expected to fill out more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerNation Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Jobes start tonight is the milb.tv free game of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerNation Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: one report I read along the way said Clark's frame was already nearly maxed out (no pun intended). I assume that kind of assessment entails a fair amount of guesswork given all the genetic variability in the population, but FWIW I suppose if that person was right he would be closer to his power than a kid expected to fill out more? FWIW fangraphs scouting report list his raw power at 40/45 and in game power at 20/45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlue Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Jobe's start tonight is the free MiLB game if you are looking to watch something to kill time for the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 5 hours ago, Topliner1903 said: I wonder if a good comparable for Max Clark would be Lenny Dykstra. Corbin Carrol but faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 13 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: Corbin Carrol but faster I would be very happy with this outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, LongLiveMaroth said: I would be very happy with this outcome. Yes of course. Possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, SoCalTiger said: Corbin Carrol but faster Bigger for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, LongLiveMaroth said: I would be very happy with this outcome. I'd be very happy with 2023 Corbin Carroll. Not this year's version...at least not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microline133 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 8 hours ago, theroundsquare said: mostly because the parks tend to be so big? Big parks, typical weather conditions, more consistently advanced pitching than most teenagers have ever faced, physical maturity, skill/approach development.....it's all of those things for a teenager in A-ball. 7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: one report I read along the way said Clark's frame was already nearly maxed out (no pun intended). I assume that kind of assessment entails a fair amount of guesswork given all the genetic variability in the population, but FWIW I suppose if that person was right he would be closer to his power than a kid expected to fill out more? Depends who is saying he's maxed out....some armchair scout looks at some pictures or some video and see his listed characteristics, then I'd say they are full of ****. If it's a real scout with some experience....a guy that's met the family and seen the physical maturity of parents, siblings, close relatives, etc., and been able to see his physical development over time, then if they're saying he's maxed out, I'm more inclined to listen. From what I know....I wouldn't say maxed out. I would say physical development is not going to be the biggest contributor to his development. He will still make some physical gains with overall maturity, but his ultimate ceiling will be dictated by bat to ball dev, pitch rec, lifting the ball, etc....you're not projecting stardom because he looks like a young Aaron Judge and you think he will be a physical monster and has skill projection. You're projecting stardom for him because he's got good now skills, has skill projection, and the present physicality doesn't need to progress for his skills to develop. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, microline133 said: Big parks, typical weather conditions, more consistently advanced pitching than most teenagers have ever faced, physical maturity, skill/approach development.....it's all of those things for a teenager in A-ball. Depends who is saying he's maxed out....some armchair scout looks at some pictures or some video and see his listed characteristics, then I'd say they are full of ****. If it's a real scout with some experience....a guy that's met the family and seen the physical maturity of parents, siblings, close relatives, etc., and been able to see his physical development over time, then if they're saying he's maxed out, I'm more inclined to listen. From what I know....I wouldn't say maxed out. I would say physical development is not going to be the biggest contributor to his development. He will still make some physical gains with overall maturity, but his ultimate ceiling will be dictated by bat to ball dev, pitch rec, lifting the ball, etc....you're not projecting stardom because he looks like a young Aaron Judge and you think he will be a physical monster and has skill projection. You're projecting stardom for him because he's got good now skills, has skill projection, and the present physicality doesn't need to progress for his skills to develop. I usually worry more the other way - sometimes young men who mature fast streak out ahead of their peers only to plateau or get heavy and/or slow and end up left behind again. I sort of had a feeling the Tigers thought about Paredes that way - that he was going to 'grow' out of the quickness to remain an adequate IF and thus his positional value was low. That hasn't seemed to have happened. I admit that I thought that was a threat to Mike Trout's career early because he was so broad and muscled so young, but that certainly wasn't true either. Trout has run into injury purgatory but getting fat and slow hasn't been an issue! In any case, Clark seems to be having fun with things which I think is OK - until he starts talking about himself in the 3rd person.......Then we've got trouble. Edited April 26 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Toledo L 7-5 Ibanez 2/3 2B Malloy 2/4 BB 2K 2B Bigbie 2/4 2B RBI BB 2K Dingler 0/3 RBI Jung 0/4 BB Hurter 4IP 7H 3ER 3K Flores 1.2IP 2BB 2K Erie W 3-2 /10 Lee 1/4 K Allen 0/4 3K Jobe 4IP 0H BB 6K Petit 1.1IP H 2K WM L 4-1 Anderson 2/4 3B Gold 1/4 2K Campos 1/3 Graham 0/3 BB K Smith 4.2IP 2ER 2BB 5H 5K Lakeland W 5-4 /12 Gil 1/5 RBI K Clark 0/5 2K Briceno 1/5 RBI 2K 2B Campbell 2/5 RBI 2 2B Santana 0/3 K 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 On 4/25/2024 at 11:04 AM, Topliner1903 said: I wonder if a good comparable for Max Clark would be Lenny Dykstra. Hopefully not off of the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Mason Englert has a 2.63 ERA and 27 K’s in 13.2 IP. However, he also has a 1.32 WHIP, so work still to be done, but the K rate is impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 6 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Mason Englert has a 2.63 ERA and 27 K’s in 13.2 IP. However, he also has a 1.32 WHIP, so work still to be done, but the K rate is impressive. Indy has his number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Toledo L 8-5 Ibanez 0/3 Malloy 2/5 RBI 2K 2B Jung 2/2 RBI 2B 3BB Bigbie 1/5 2B Dingler 3/5 2RBI K 2B Flores 2.1IP 2H 3BB 2K Erie Rained Out WM L 9-4 Anderson 1/5 2B Gold 1/4 2K Campos 0/4 RBI K Pacheco 1/4 K Graham 0/3 RBI BB Lakeland W 9-3 Clark 1/3 2BB 2SB Briceno 3/5 RBI 2B 3B Gil 1/5 RBI Santana 2/4 2RBI K 2B HR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LongLiveMaroth Posted Monday at 10:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:28 PM Ty Madden finally gets the AAA call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted Tuesday at 02:58 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:58 AM 4 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Ty Madden finally gets the AAA call Hope the pen is ready for him <ducks> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted Wednesday at 01:10 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:10 PM Toledo L 7-6 Malloy 2/3 RBI 2BB K 2B HR Jung 0/3 RBI BB 2K Bigbie 1/4 BB 2K Dingler 2/4 2RBI K HR 2B Englert 2IP 2ER 2H Erie L 10-8 Workman 4/5 K 3B HR Lee 1/5 K Allen 3/4 3RBI HR SB Lockhart 3IP 5H 3ER BB 3K Petit 0.1IP 2H 4ER 2BB K WM W 9-2 Anderson 1/5 RBI K 2B Gold 2/4 RBI BB K 2 2B Campos 2/5 RBI 2K 2B Pacheco 2/4 2RBI K 3B Turney 0/4 2K Hamm 4IP 3H 5K (1.33 ERA on the year, 13.3 K/9) Lakeland W 7-3 McGonigle 1/3 BB Clark 0/4 RBI BB 2SB Briceno 1/4 BB K Santana 0/1 2BB K Lee 2/4 4RBI 2B HR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerNation Posted Wednesday at 02:42 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:42 PM Jobes start is once again the free milb.tv game of the day. Game starts in 20 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted Wednesday at 03:29 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:29 PM 47 minutes ago, TigerNation said: Jobes start is once again the free milb.tv game of the day. Game starts in 20 minutes. Link https://www.milb.com/live-stream-games/g751152 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted Wednesday at 04:12 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:12 PM At least it's not his arm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted Wednesday at 04:19 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:19 PM *insert Michael Scott 'no' gif* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted Wednesday at 04:43 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:43 PM 30 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: At least it's not his arm.... That sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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