djhutch Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: New study links placement of confederate monuments to lynching….. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/survey-identifies-correlation-between-confederate-monuments-and-lynchings-180978873/ I literally saw a beat up pickup yesterday, yes of course it was all jacked up, & said 'Merica on the back .. next to a Confederate flag. I suppose I could have explained it to him, but that would have required losing 60 IQ points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacie Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/worker-florida-applied-60-entry-193423909.html Not sure where to put this, but found it interesting. I also think this is one important thing that is also left out of the conversation which is how misleading employers are. I know of a few who post ads on indeed or what not and it'll say xx per hour, benefits, room to grow and most of it is total bullshit. They're just trying to get applicants but have no intention of doing anything their ads say. Then they bitch when people show up to interview but then don't show up to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 hours ago, djhutch said: I literally saw a beat up pickup yesterday, yes of course it was all jacked up, & said 'Merica on the back .. next to a Confederate flag. I suppose I could have explained it to him, but that would have required losing 60 IQ points. After nine years of living in Texas (ie. an actual Confederate state), it never ceases to amaze me that I see less stars and bars here than I did back home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, mtutiger said: After nine years of living in Texas (ie. an actual Confederate state), it never ceases to amaze me that I see less stars and bars here than I did back home Rural North Carolina has no shortage of confederate sedition wear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, romad1 said: Rural North Carolina has no shortage of confederate sedition wear I just spent a week on vacation in North Carolina. Four days in Charlotte, and a couple days in Asheville. Loved those areas, but it was an entire different universe driving outside of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 23 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Does it really matter? I predict he will challenge for the title of Biggest MAGhole once he does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Statues are not for teaching history. They are for revering heroes. I'm with Moses on the whole graven image thing. If they were all toppled, I don't think I would feel bereft of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Manchin has pretty forcefully denied that report including with swear words. But Saban also said he wouldn't be the Alabama coach. I strongly agree about the statues. It would be no impact on my life. They're dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 The only way Manchin joins the Republican party is if he fully embraces Trump. Given he is up for re-election in 2024 in a state that a Trumper will win by 30+ points, we'll see how desperately he wants to cling to power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I'm not a fan of the notion that he's not a Democrat. I feel like the issue here isn't that WV needs someone more liberal, it's that Wisconsin needs someone more liberal than Ron Johnson. Democrats need to be able to have moderates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I'm all for Manchin switching to the Republican party. Cryin Chuck would lose him mind and his title as Senate majority leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 16 hours ago, romad1 said: Rural North Carolina has no shortage of confederate sedition wear For sure. And to be fair, Texas has an identity that is more unique and less connected to the vestiges of the Confederacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Archie said: I'm all for Manchin switching to the Republican party. Cryin Chuck would lose him mind and his title as Senate majority leader. How could you trust him when he voted to impeach Trump twice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Archie said: I'm all for Manchin switching to the Republican party. Cryin Chuck would lose him mind and his title as Senate majority leader. This newscycle comes up every so often. But at the end of the day, Joe Manchin voted for impeachment twice and has been incredibly defensive of Obamacare throughout the Trump years. He isn't gonna become a Republican... as much as more lefty folks complain about him, his ideology still aligns more with the Dems than the Rs. And he really hates McConnell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, pfife said: I'm not a fan of the notion that he's not a Democrat. I feel like the issue here isn't that WV needs someone more liberal, it's that Wisconsin needs someone more liberal than Ron Johnson. Democrats need to be able to have moderates. And Arizona needs someone more liberal than Sinema. Manchin is at least willing to play ball in all of this... I still don't know entirely what her endgame is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 It seems like Sinema wants to be hated by everyone. I don't think she even runs again. Probably going to cash out. I can see her as a commentator on Fox News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: It seems like Sinema wants to be hated by everyone. I don't think she even runs again. Probably going to cash out. I can see her as a commentator on Fox News. This is what it looks like to me. Being in the senate is just a stepping stone in a quest for personal gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, mtutiger said: This newscycle comes up every so often. But at the end of the day, Joe Manchin voted for impeachment twice and has been incredibly defensive of Obamacare throughout the Trump years. He isn't gonna become a Republican... as much as more lefty folks complain about him, his ideology still aligns more with the Dems than the Rs. And he really hates McConnell. I don't think he would jump ship either. It would be nice if he did so we can keep pain from Biden and the democrats to a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 hours ago, pfife said: Manchin has pretty forcefully denied that report including with swear words. But Saban also said he wouldn't be the Alabama coach. I strongly agree about the statues. It would be no impact on my life. They're dumb. Oh boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 46 minutes ago, pfife said: Oh boy He also said that he would only become an I and would caucus with the Ds in this hypothetical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 In that case I don't really have issue with it. If being independent means he has better chance of being re-elected, then go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 11 hours ago, pfife said: In that case I don't really have issue with it. If being independent means he has better chance of being re-elected, then go for it. He'd still caucus with the dems. That said, I don't think it's happening. I think it's a political ploy that will allow him to back some version of the BBB bill at some number between 1.7 and the 3.whatever, while showing a 'I'm very concerned about the debt' that a good portion of his state apparently cares about again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, ewsieg said: He'd still caucus with the dems. That said, I don't think it's happening. I think it's a political ploy that will allow him to back some version of the BBB bill at some number between 1.7 and the 3.whatever, while showing a 'I'm very concerned about the debt' that a good portion of his state apparently cares about again. I think there's a non-zero chance that it happens, but not a very big chance. I could definitely see a way that being independent would make him much more electable in WV. I do wonder how it would work with campaign funding not being a democrat anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 It would be nice to have a block in the middle who were all Independent Senators not beholden to Mitch or Chuck for reelection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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