RandyMarsh Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Shane Greene Ladies and Gentlemen should never be on waivers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, chasfh said: Wait a minute—how did a freely available Shane Greene get by us after we were all over Daniel Norris?? Maybe Chris Fetter wanted to take his shot with Norris - everyone else has. He's still has good stuff if he could ever find the plate consistently. Edited July 29, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 41 minutes ago, chasfh said: Wait a minute—how did a freely available Shane Greene get by us after we were all over Daniel Norris?? They brought back Norris to start... Greene isn't a starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 so what's Matt Boyd doing now-a-days. If they don't trade Fulmer they can still put the 2016 band back together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 al's grand plan was to re-sign shane greene, matt boyd, and daniel norris and offer them to the yankees for gleybar torres. stupid yankees beat us to the punch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: so what's Matt Boyd doing now-a-days. If they don't trade Fulmer they can still put the 2016 band back together! Injured and out for the year, unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Injured and out for the year, unfortunately I've missed seeing anything about him recently- still recovering from the off-season surgery or something new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: I've missed seeing anything about him recently- still recovering from the off-season surgery or something new? Listed as an elbow, so I assume a continuation of his issues last year. Rooting for him to recover, he seems like a good dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 he had injury set back with Giants in June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Wait, so other teams' pitchers have setbacks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Edman85 said: Wait, so other teams' pitchers have setbacks? safe to assume the set back is Al's fault 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 6 hours ago, mtutiger said: They brought back Norris to start... Greene isn't a starter Maybe. Although Norris hasn’t been a starter since 2019 and we’re about to dump a bunch of relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, chasfh said: Maybe. Although Norris hasn’t been a starter since 2019 and we’re about to dump a bunch of relievers. Do they need Greene in the BP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: Maybe. Although Norris hasn’t been a starter since 2019 and we’re about to dump a bunch of relievers. I always thought moving Norris to the pen was a mistake. They did it because they thought he got too amped up looking forward to his starts, but it seemed to me that for a guy with problems repeating his delivery, longer outings working across the range from fresh to fatigued would help him learn how to get into a groove better. But at 30 the die is probably now cast for him - improving the way he pitches now has to be a long shot - whether working short or long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Trader Jerry strikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Rollercoaster Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Mariners sending Noelvi Marte (Mariners #2 prospect, as ranked by FanGraphs), Edwin Arroyo (#7), Levi Stoudt (#14), and Andrew Moore to Cincinnati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I want Josh Jung or Jordan Walker for Skubal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Hopefully the competition will drive the market up for our guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Hopefully the competition will drive the market up for our guys. Ixnay on the Rays-ay tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Does the Luis Castillo deal change any perspectives on Skubal or the idea of it? I would still keep him, and the Reds and Tigers situations aren't exactly parallel anyway, but while I dont think he would command the same haul that Castillo did because of how established Castillo is, I'm even more sure that he'd bring back a haul if he were to move. (At least for a competent GM anyway lol) Edited July 30, 2022 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, mtutiger said: Does the Luis Castillo deal change any perspectives on Skubal or the idea of it? I would still keep him, and the Reds and Tigers situations aren't exactly parallel anyway, but while I dont think he would command the same haul that Castillo did because of how established Castillo is, I'm even more sure that he'd bring back a haul if he were to move. (At least for a competent GM anyway lol) He might have similar perceived value, as he’s LH with more years of control, but I don’t think we would be pursuing prospects that are 2-3 years away from contributing. Teams would need to be willing to give up AA/AAA/majors players, which might be more of an issue to any potential buyers. Clearly, the Reds are embracing a rebuild and are OK with getting more talent that will take longer to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 11 hours ago, mtutiger said: Do they need Greene in the BP? They’ve been stocking up on bullpen arms and he was freely available is all I was saying. As long as we were going for devils we know … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: He might have similar perceived value, as he’s LH with more years of control, but I don’t think we would be pursuing prospects that are 2-3 years away from contributing. This would be dumb on their part. Get the best prospects you can. You want a consistent pipeline on into the future. The idea of bunching prospects on the same timeline is an illusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, Longgone said: This would be dumb on their part. Get the best prospects you can. You want a consistent pipeline on into the future. The idea of bunching prospects on the same timeline is an illusion. Perhaps, but I’d just rather hold on to Skubal if we can’t immediately address our lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 39 minutes ago, Longgone said: This would be dumb on their part. Get the best prospects you can. You want a consistent pipeline on into the future. The idea of bunching prospects on the same timeline is an illusion. Yeah... I think you're only going to get one premium, close-to-the-majors guy in dealing Skubal... I have my eye on a couple guys because that's who I want/ am targeting. But the other team has to agree. If not... move on to another team, or if there's no deal good enough to be had then, no trade. But outside of one premium guy who might be a double-A/close-to-the-majors guy.... the rest of any prospect package will be lower level guys... If I want to send Skubal and Soto to the Cardinals or Rangers for Walker or Jung (first they have to agree to that... but on that end... I believe both those teams have a serious interest in Skubal if the rumors are to be believed...?); we'll get more prospects than just the one... but those extra prospects will be the A/Low-A/Rookie league guys. With potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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