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It would be hard for me to say no to Holliday, Mayo plus if that were the return despite the fact I love Skubal. The fact is that guys like Skubal typically aren't elite for long periods of time anymore. For every Verlander there are a dozen Stephen Strasburgs so if we can get multiple elite position players who should be effective if not great for us for atleast the next half dozen years it would be hard to say no to.

This may be Flaherty’s last start as Tiger. For everyone’s sake involved, I hope he has a really good outing.

I think I remember MonkeyTargets from a really long time ago. It's always fun when an old name returns.

Waiting to trade Kelly at the deadline.

No chance, and we don’t want that, since it will motivate people more to wanna throw her out of office. And we want Biden to make it at least to Election Day. Setting aside the sheer human awfulness of it, if Biden died before the election, I wonder whether Kamala would get a sympathy bump. I think it helped LBJ, although obviously different circumstances. Can barely imagine how crass the Republicans would be in response.

Someone alert McCosky.

MF is short for MotownForums, gutterbrain.

Today is the anniversary of the "pine tar game". 1983...Billy Martin knew about the pine tar and kept that fact in his back pocket to use at the right time. Lol...I remember watching the game live at my mom's house. I was 23 years old.

Jobe is ready to pitch in the big leagues right now. He’d be our 3rd best pitcher immediately. The innings he required can happen in the minors or majors—it doesn’t matter. Regardless, he desperately needs them—he’s thrown less than 40 so far. He would also be learning daily from the best pitching coach and pitchers in the organization. The only reasons not to promote him now are if they think he has a fragile psyche and/or service time manipulation. I wouldn’t promote him just so we can win more games this year—I’d promote him to further his development.

Nope, I don't think they find a taker for Urshela. I suspect Ibanez' platoon vs LHP and salary are enticing as an acquisition. And as far as his trade value, now is the time to move him.

We are not supposed to say that he he blew it. There was nothing he could do about it. 🫢

I think Harris is smart and understands player value and won't make a deal that hurts the team. I don't know if he's bold and creative enough where he can make a big deal like this though. My feeling is that he is cautious and risk averse , but I don't really know yet. That wouldn't be a terrible thing. Not everyone can be Dave Dombrowski.

There it is. 😉😝

Well then, might as well win this game.

Worse than Palin? Quite a feat What little I saw of the Ohio speech was uninspiring

I don't get the constant drive to swap away every player that starts producing. Isn't the whole point to develop players who produce so you can have them on *your* team? In baseball the grass is almost never actually greener on the other side.

That's a nice start... But the Tigers are missing at least 3 more prospects on their side of the ledger...

I’m sure there are scouts from all over the league here representing the robust trade market for Mark Canha

No. No, Hinch. Just, please, no!

They would bat Javy 17th if they could get away with it.

OMG HAASIE!!!!!!!

I have no idea what this is in reference to… Do I want to know? Maybe not. 😵‍💫

I own only one. A 99 Barry jersey my GF, now wife bought me two weeks before he retired. 😭

I would be pretty disappointed with this return. I think I'd take the QO over that return.

One further note on Flaherty: If he dominates Cleveland... knocks them down flat... The trade offers are going to spike way, way up. In quantity and quality. Playoff teams love someone who can dominate other high level playoff teams. This would go highly on his resume. Just sayin'...

Ah, gotcha. Yes, on this, of course. Agree 100%. Quality side = Skubal won't be traded unless Harris is happy with the top guys. Whether that's Holliday, or Basallo & Mayo, or whomever fits within the "must have quality" part of the deal... It will need to be that high a level of quality or Harris just says no. On the quantity side, it will need to be both quality and quantity. Basallo, Mayo, Kjerstad, Povitch, AND Cam Weston just might be too much of an ask for Skubal... But I don't believe that's too far off. And even if Holliday isn't in there (Baltimore most likely will flat out refuse to trade their #1 guy... and the #1 in baseball (according to some)); would you (meaning anyone in here) pass up that trade package for Skubal? Which has both quality AND quantity (I think BOTH will be an absolute requirement).

Yeah, they need to be wary they don't completely alienate their new friends on the big stage. India hates Pakistan which is an ally of China. India is wary of China and has been trying to join the anti-China alliance in the Indo Pacific region. India has Russian legacy weapons systems. India is a member of the Commonwealth and has family ties to the UK, Canada, Australia because of the Indian diaspora. They are engaged in many business relationships now with UK companies that have them taking on the senior role in partnerships. They should start acting more responsibly. That Modi is a hindu nationalist jerk is also a thing.

It was probably Shaun King

No, he makes a valid point. Not having the innings is not an argument for being in the Majors or Minors. He’s either capable of getting MLB hitters out or not yet. This is even more true on the pitching side where arms tend to be injuries waiting to happen.

your a little bitch.

BLM never liked Harris because she was a prosecutor. This goes back to the 2020 primary. BLM has become a corrupted organization that got co-opted by white leftists.

yeah I don't really get it. There isn't really a process for what's unfolding, so there isn't a process of excluding anyone. Maybe there is and it's subtle/hidden IDK but I saw what seemed to be a lot of Dems that could make a pretty substantial challenge to Harris if they wanted to do so decide not to do it on their own volition.

Jobe may be ready from a stuff standpoint but he’s not ready from an innings standpoint. The most he’s gone in a year as a pro is 77. i can’t see the Tigers brass putting him into the major league rotation for the start of next year. Maybe he’s the guy that is the spot starter for double headers and such. The goal next year needs to be him staying healthy and him building the arm stamina to handle a full year of ML work in 2026. We put Bonderman in the rotation full time before he was ready and it definitely seemed to stunt the development and his health. i also would expect a similar approach to Gipson-Long coming off injury. We are almost going to have to get a free agent SP this offseason even if we somehow retain Flaherty and Skubal.

That's NOT how I read that article. The very first sentence, in the second paragraph, explicitly states: "the Orioles might ALSO... be sellers." So the two are separate. A big trade (for Skubal, for example) with top prospects, but ALSO trade Mullins and Mountcastle because they have so many damn high upside prospects that they need to make room for any of those that are not traded. That's exactly how I read what they've written and I don't see any other way to take that. That's great... But they are STILL short a few prospects on the Tigers side, even if Holliday is a superior get. They are NOT trading Skubal and Foley 1-for-1, basically, a prospect each. I mean, seriously? Do you actually believe that? I'm sorry but... not even close. Not happening.

I thought they only made the Manu jersey in 6XL or larger.

Interesting thread title. My comments are the same as always **** The Packers **** The Bears **** The Vikings

That's why the only thing fans can do is trust the Scott Harris team. Unnamed scouts are the key. Who are the scouts in Tampa? Those are the baseball types Harris hopefully has in place, helping him to make good baseball decisions. Fans (me included) need to remember he hasn't even been here 2 years. Realistically, his teams should start competing by 2026 or 2027. (I'm impatient)

Malloy is up to 760, so he's a possibility. I don't know if he'll be a full-time player, but he has hit well for a rookie.

This sounds like a pretty big deal: Conservatives are going to explain why it's a terrible idea, but that's too bad.

Bad luck? They used Joey Wentz and he only gave up 3 runs. It's usually a sure loss...

My driveway is wet

Thing with Biden's age is that he might still be sharp mentally but watching him move was not encouraging. Did you see the movie The Irishman? They de-aged Robert DeNiro in several scenes. Then they used what was supposed to be 40-year old DeNiro beating up someone at a grocery store, but instead of using a body double for the long shot, they used DeNiro, who did not move like anyone under 70 and it was the biggest bum note in the movie.

Tork and Dingler with a HR tonight so far.

The Cybertruck is the ugliest motor vehicle I've ever seen. Uglier than those rolling toaster-looking vans.

he's a little banged up, particularly in the legs, and played during the ASB.

I’m not interested in trades right now because I just saw that we now have a +3 run differential. Everything is fine. I’m going to party like it’s 1999, without a care for the morrow.

Most homeless folks are there due to untreated mental illness. A large majority are Vets. They can't function in society much less work a 9-5. I volunteer for a homeless outreach Vet group where I live. We help anyone that looks for help Vet or not. Most don't want help so we leave them a sandwich and water.