buddha Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 sooooo....jaydn daniels at #3 to new england. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 The Bears will trade Fields to the Patriots for the #3 pick.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said: The Bears will trade Fields to the Patriots for the #3 pick.... the pats arent that stupid. fields will not be traded for a #1 pick. would you trade a #1 pick for zack wilson? why not? his analytical numbers are pretty much the same as fields'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 Just now, buddha said: the pats arent that stupid. fields will not be traded for a #1 pick. would you trade a #1 pick for zack wilson? why not? his analytical numbers are pretty much the same as fields'. I forgot my /s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 The question on Free Agents however... is who squeezes through the Franchise Tag process to become available...? According to contract/ cap issues... I believe Chris Jones and Danielle Hunter are freeing up in 2024. I'd take either one. Might be able to snag Kendall Fuller at CB... Or maybe Sneed with the Chiefs... That would devastate the Chiefs if they lost those two (Jones & Sneed)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 22 minutes ago, buddha said: ... fields will not be traded for a #1 pick... One rumor has Fields to the Falcons for their 2nd and a couple later round picks in 2025... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 If I were Atlanta I would try to sign Cousins and draft my future QB. They got talent at receiver and RB and a decent OL. You can plug Cousins in as your bridge and be a contender in that division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 That sounds like a smart idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I know you can say this about most teams but Atlanta is a solid QB away from being pretty damn good, there is alot of talent there. Like even if they were able to have a steady guy like how Baker Mayfield played this year I could easily see them being in the same place as the Bucs are now, if they got somebody like Cousins than that would be even better. If I was a potential HC they'd be high on the list of teams I'd be interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Plus Cousins or Russell Wilson even on that team and they likely win the division. I do think Atlanta is one of the better jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 atlanta will blow it by hiring belichick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Serious, but maybe dumb, question. What trade value, if any, does Hendon Hooker have at this point? Is there a world where a rebuilding team or QB desperate team like Atlanta gives him a try and you can get more than you paid for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 15 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Serious, but maybe dumb, question. What trade value, if any, does Hendon Hooker have at this point? Is there a world where a rebuilding team or QB desperate team like Atlanta gives him a try and you can get more than you paid for him? I was thinking same thing. specifically, if Johnson leaves and goes to, say Washington, or another team w/o a long term QB, does he say to his new GM, "Hooker is worth 2 second round picks?" We forget sometime that the guy was having an all-time great year before the knee injury. And riding with Goff for the next 6 years leaves little room for HH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 A 26 year old who hasn't even thrown a pre-season pass probably doesn't have much value. It would be less than the pick used to draft him. Might as well keep him and develop him into a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 1/16/2024 at 2:22 PM, NYLion said: I know Holmes doesn't draft for need generally but CB has to be a top priority with one of the first 2 picks. They have absolutely nothing there as a long term solution outside of Sutton who is only a stopgap really. It's arguably the 3rd most position behind QB and LT in a pass happy league, it needs to be addressed this offseason. I don't know. An edge rusher may be more important. Even the best corner backs have a problem covering with no pressure on the QB. Getting consistent pressure on a QB makes the secondary look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Stephon Gilmore is a free agent. He's getting up in age but he was still good. Would come on a short term contract. Would be a nice stopgap if you draft a young CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said: I was thinking same thing. specifically, if Johnson leaves and goes to, say Washington, or another team w/o a long term QB, does he say to his new GM, "Hooker is worth 2 second round picks?" We forget sometime that the guy was having an all-time great year before the knee injury. And riding with Goff for the next 6 years leaves little room for HH. 1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Serious, but maybe dumb, question. What trade value, if any, does Hendon Hooker have at this point? Is there a world where a rebuilding team or QB desperate team like Atlanta gives him a try and you can get more than you paid for him? He hasn't thrown a pass, maybe a 7th rounder. Maybe, in 2029 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 hooker has zero value right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley70 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 i don't know Hooker's value, but it was a 3rd rounder last year when he was hurt. It has to be in the same range since he is healthy, though a year of the rookie contract will have elapsed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley70 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 The athletic had a mock draft up yesterday. Mocks are usually worthless, double so trying to predict what Holmes will do. That said they had the Lions take T'Vondre Sweat the 360 lbs DT from Texas in the first. And in the second TJ Tampa a CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Why do we want to trade Hooker? Knock on every piece of wood in the two-mile radius, but although Goff has been very resilient in the last three years (owing in no small part to the offensive line), that is not the case league-wide. Aaron Rodgers, Anthony Richardson, Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins, Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Justin Fields, Justin Herbert, Ryan Tannehill, Jimmy Garrapollo, and Kenny Pickett all missed multiple weeks this season, and you could argue that a handful of those injuries substantially effected - if not totally derailed - their team's season. We have him on a four-year contract, and I would be willing to bet (and hope to lose the bet) that even if Goff signs a long-term extension, Hooker would be needed to start at least one game over the next three years. Rather than be relying on Tim Boyle or David Blough or [insert terribly mediocre backup here], I'd much rather be in a position to put our own version of Matt Cassel into the game, having been born and bred into the Lions' system, and then flip him when his value is highest. The board was ready to burst into flames before we signed Teddy Bridgewater, why do we now want to get rid of the next probably-at-least-decent backup for pennies on the dollar? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 The only way Hooker gets traded is if he gets caught with Hookers (and blow). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 28 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: Why do we want to trade Hooker? Knock on every piece of wood in the two-mile radius, but although Goff has been very resilient in the last three years (owing in no small part to the offensive line), that is not the case league-wide. Aaron Rodgers, Anthony Richardson, Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins, Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Justin Fields, Justin Herbert, Ryan Tannehill, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Kenny Pickett all missed multiple weeks this season, and you could argue that a handful of those injuries substantially effected - if not totally derailed - their team's season. We have him on a four-year contract, and I would be willing to bet (and hope to lose the bet) that even if Goff signs a long-term extension, Hooker would be needed to start at least one game over the next three years. Rather than be relying on Tim Boyle or David Blough or [insert terribly mediocre backup here], I'd much rather be in a position to put our own version of Matt Cassel into the game, having been born and bred into the Lions' system, and then flip him when his value is highest. The board was ready to burst into flames before we signed Teddy Bridgewater, why do we now want to get rid of the next probably-at-least-decent backup for pennies on the dollar? The trade-Hooker-for-whatever-we-can-get idea is pretty asinine. IMO. Based on your excellent post here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/16/2024 at 1:48 PM, 1984Echoes said: Sorry... This is probably an inappropriate time but, I just couldn't help myself... This is my best draft so far using a simulator and a straight up draft rather than crazy trades or anything: NOTES: I really wanted TJ Tampa as the CB but he keeps getting drafted right before our 2nd rounder, in the mid-2nd. Both he and Khyree are bigger CB's that excel at tackling as well as being big, fast, rangy, INT-types of CB's. Sort of what the Lions were trying to get with Melifonwu, even if he ended up at Safety instead. They might be a liability against smaller, shiftier inside WR's... but I think they would prevent some of the "burns" we keep receiving on the outside. Also: Powers-Johnson becomes the top backup at Center and Guard. Covers for Glasgow and especially Ragnow with his bad toe/ injuries. Also, if we don't re-sign Jonah. And Foster and Sorsdal are both guys that can cover OT as well as OG. I got two edge rushers (Braswell at OLB and Tupuola-Fetui at situational-DE) and an interior rusher (Jenkins) but since I went for Powers-Johnson in the 1st I wasn't in position for Trice or Tuimoloau (an actual bookend-type DE to match with Hutch...) since they are falling into the early 2nd round area so... I went for the next best thing. And I got the best college kicker in the 7th. Glasgow and Jonah are both going to be UFA's, so they will need maybe two guards. Josh Reynolds will also be a free agent, so he might have to be replaced. I think cb is their #1 need. They need top talent there to take a lot of snaps next year. I think the top free agent corners will be franchised, so the Lions need to catch that room up with the rest of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 4 hours ago, Stanley70 said: The athletic had a mock draft up yesterday. Mocks are usually worthless, double so trying to predict what Holmes will do. That said they had the Lions take T'Vondre Sweat the 360 lbs DT from Texas in the first. And in the second TJ Tampa a CB. Sweat doesn't make much sense, he's not a three down player. He's a great player, but the Lions have plenty of nose tackles. The Lions pick really low, and I think Holmes will do well, but he has to get a couple of corners, and maybe two guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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