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Cam's problem is that he's a no. 2 CB who was tasked with covering everyone's no. 1 receiver. The Lions need to acquire a legit no. 1 CB, and Cam will be fine. Adding to the D-line so they can get pressure with four will help the entire secondary.

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4 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

Couple rags I was reading stated DeJean would "probably shift to Safety in the NFL"...

I don't know how accurate that is...

But it probably wouldn't help our CB deficiency if that were to become abundantly clear/ true.

I'd be fine with Quin Mitchell.

And there does seem to be some depth at CB this year. May even be able to find another starter in the 3rd (eventually) round. I'll trust Holmes to find 1 or 2 of these guys.

He's plenty fast to play corner

The talk of playing safety is cause he is a ball Hawk who can tackle and might be even better as a centerfielder depending on the scheme. 

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1 hour ago, KL2 said:

He's plenty fast to play corner

The talk of playing safety is cause he is a ball Hawk who can tackle and might be even better as a centerfielder depending on the scheme. 

cause he's white so no one thinks he is fast enough to play corner.

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It's not just the straightline speed, it's the ability to "flip hips" or handle receivers' double-moves so to speak.

If Holmes drafts him and declares him our "presumed #1 CB" I'm on board.

The only thing I've got to go on is draft rags anyways so... 

I trust Holmes & DC to make the right decisions on guys as they've already shown time & again...

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1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

I’d expect Dejean to run between 4.35 - 4.41 at full health.   The injury may have an impact on his combine training though.

Sauce Gardner ran a 4.41 40 at 6'3" 190 lbs.  DeJean is 6'1" 205lbs or so.  There's no way he's faster than Sauce. 

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36 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Do we think Holmes is going to draft for need this year or will he go BPA, regardless of position?

He will go for BPA, and Lions fans will freak out if the BPA does not align with immediate needs. I prefer that he fill immediate needs through FA and trades, tbh.

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This isn't going to happen, but these are players I like.

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  • 29.
    DET
    Jer'Zhan Newton
    DT Illinois
  • 63.
    DET
    Darius Robinson
    EDGE Missouri
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  • 78.
    DET
    Kris Abrams-Draine
    CB Missouri
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  • 92.
    DET
    Roman Wilson
    WR Michigan
  • 121.
    DET
    Layden Robinson
    OG Texas A&M
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  • 157.
    DET
    Daequan Hardy
    CB Penn State
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  • 162.
    DET
    LaDarius Henderson
    OT Michigan
  • 194.
    DET
    A.J. Barner
    TE Michigan
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  • 206.
    DET
    Jason Bean
    QB Kansas
  • 210.
    DET
    Gabe Hall
    DT Baylor
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12 hours ago, buddha said:

cause he's white so no one thinks he is fast enough to play corner.

Same thing with Campbell at LB. He's white so he's gotta be slow.

I'd love for the Lions to get Dejean but I don't think he'll be there at 29. 

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9 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Do we think Holmes is going to draft for need this year or will he go BPA, regardless of position?

free agency opens before the draft so if he gets DE/Edge and a CB in free agency, then he will have more freedom for BPA, probably still focusing on those 2 spots plus OG and WR later

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10 hours ago, GoBlue23 said:

Sauce Gardner ran a 4.41 40 at 6'3" 190 lbs.  DeJean is 6'1" 205lbs or so.  There's no way he's faster than Sauce. 

There’s absolutely a way.  

As High Schoolers, Dejean was the Iowa state 100m champ with a time of 11.16.  Sauce ran 11.50 as his PR at Detroit King.   

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2 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

There’s absolutely a way.  

As High Schoolers, Dejean was the Iowa state 100m champ with a time of 11.16.  Sauce ran 11.50 as his PR at Detroit King.   

I don't care what either of these guys ran but credit due on some serious level research.

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I think the big question is will they go after a big fish in FA or bring in a few affordable types like they have been. I'd like to see them bring in another impact guy for the defense, either at CB or someone who can get to the QB. I know they have a few big contracts coming up though so they may not want to go that route.

If they avoid the big guys in FA they should look into trading up in the first to get a more immediate impact guy.

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I don’t know what Dejean is going to run.  Nobody does yet.  We don’t even know his real height and weight.  Colleges lie all the time to make their guys look better.  

Something called nfldraftbuzz.com pulled a 4.50 prediction that appears to have no substantiation.    I see him closer to 4.4 than I do 4.5.  

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15 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

There’s absolutely a way.  

As High Schoolers, Dejean was the Iowa state 100m champ with a time of 11.16.  Sauce ran 11.50 as his PR at Detroit King.   

Comparing the 100 and the 40 is like comparing  the javelin to the shot put.  

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36 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

free agency opens before the draft so if he gets DE/Edge and a CB in free agency, then he will have more freedom for BPA, probably still focusing on those 2 spots plus OG and WR later

I like Holmes a lot, but the way they have approached free agency hasn't been to go out and get a top player in the free agent class at any position group. Maybe they thought Sutton and/or Mosley would be worthy of the #1 corner spot, but neither are. Maybe they thought Charles Harris and John Cominsky were the bookend pass rusher to Aiden, but neither of them are.

I'd like to go out and get a Josh Allen (Edge), Brian Burns, Danielle Hunter, Jaylon Johnson, Kendall Fuller type impact starter in free agency. I do worry a bit, I guess, that they'll pass on the A-tier free agents and go get more try hard guys that fit their scheme from the next tier down. So we'll end up with Denico Autry and Adoree Jackson type players instead of an impact playmaker like a Brian Burns or Kendall Fuller. That or they'll bring in an aging veteran like Stephon Gilmore while they draft someone and bring them along behind him. But they won't pay big to bring in an impact playmaker that can be their starter for the next 3-4 seasons.

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4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I like Holmes a lot, but the way they have approached free agency hasn't been to go out and get a top player in the free agent class at any position group.

Right. Most likely Holmes and Campbell believe that as many seasons turn on depth as top line players (Campbell talks a lot about depth) They probably see some competitive advantage to using FAs to build depth at controlled cost while other teams are bidding up the cost of bigger upgrades. That said you hope they are flexible if circumstances warrant.

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We saw Bob Quinn over pay for free agents. Impact guys like Allen, Burns and Johnson will be franchised. Not sure what Minnesota will do with Hunter. The Lions have a lot of young players coming up as free agents. You build through the draft and supplement with free agency. 

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32 minutes ago, GoBlue23 said:

Comparing the 100 and the 40 is like comparing  the javelin to the shot put.  

You said there is no way that Cooper Dejean is faster than Sauce Gardner.    

My comparison shows you are wrong and it is very possible.  

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11 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

You said there is no way that Cooper Dejean is faster than Sauce Gardner.    

My comparison shows you are wrong and it is very possible.  

Dejean might also run the 400 and 1600 faster as well, that doesn't mean he's faster in the 40.  This will all work itself out at the Combine.  

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